Reps should be pushing Tax Cuts first, immediately. With separate debates and considerations for all other major spending programs. People know what they would do with 'more money' -- whatever helps them the most, right now (including better preparation for the future).
The best help for the banks: huge Tax Cuts, now, for people and companies, so that there can be more savings flowing into the banks while at the same time reducing the indebtedness of people and firms. It's insane that an argument against Tax Cuts is that not enough will be spent, because too much will be saved -- while at the same time arguing for special gov't cash to go into the banks
The Atlantic's Rober Barro interview had him pushing tax cuts for the income effect, and the incentive effect. Barro specifically doesn't like shovelling money at people.
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But I do. The country is better off if the gov't shovels money at people, now, and let's them decide how to spend it, or save it. The stimulus is going to have gov't decide, and gov't be full of corruption and waste.
What is curious is that Barro does admit the Financial System has a problem, and sort of supports the gov't helping out that problem. But I see two obvious options, a) direct gov't bailout to banks, and b) indirect support for banks by REDUCING personal debt.
Tax cuts now, giving folks more cash, will result in many of them saving / paying off their credit card debt. This is good, even if it's not immediate stimulus. It means the long term indebtedness of the taxpayer goes down. AND it helps the banks, by them having fewer loans outstanding / more savings (tier 1 capital).
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#1, but we need Pre-Packaged Chapter 11 bankruptcy for ALL the Big Banks with toxic assets they've poisoned themselves with. Bankruptcy, not nationalization.The 40% share of corporate profits being made in 2006 by the financial industry was Ponzi scheme betting on bets made by betters who didn't know they were betting -- except everybody knew "house prices never go down".Like not needing newspapers, the internet means the future USA doesn't need nearly as many bankers for taking saver's cash and allocating it to good production / distribution / service businesses.The growth of 'finance' was huge mal-investment; even worse than over-building residential houses.The best help for the banks: huge Tax Cuts, now, for people and companies, so that there can be more savings flowing into the banks while at the same time reducing the indebtedness of people and firms.It's insane that an argument against Tax Cuts is that not enough will be spent, because too much will be saved -- while at the same time arguing for special gov't cash to go into the banks.
Greg Mankiw has been following and participating in this debate as well, and notes that Keynes favored a cut in SS payroll taxes in bad times.
Tyler Cowen of Marginal Revolution notes how the pro-stimulus folks are much bigger on insulting the critics, than in producing evidence that stimulus will work.
There are also theories of TARP evolution which are amusing.
The banks ARE insolvent. We need Pre-Packaged Chapter 11 bankruptcy for ALL the Big Banks with toxic assets they've poisoned themselves with. Bankruptcy, not nationalization. The 40% share of corporate profits being made in 2006 by the financial industry was Ponzi scheme betting on bets made by betters who didn't know they were betting -- except everybody knew "house prices never go down".
Like not needing newspapers, the internet means the future USA doesn't need nearly as many bankers for taking saver's cash and allocating it to good production / distribution / service businesses.
The growth of 'finance' was huge mal-investment; even worse than over-building residential houses.
The best help for the banks: huge Tax Cuts, now, for people and companies, so that there can be more savings flowing into the banks while at the same time reducing the indebtedness of people and firms.
It's insane that an argument against Tax Cuts is that not enough will be spent, because too much will be saved -- while at the same time arguing for special gov't cash to go into the banks.