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Abortionists and "Studies": Writhing Reflexes of the Unborn Isn't Painful and Never Requires Pain Medication [Updated]

24 Week Old Fetus

[Edit]: A summary that exposes deeper ramifications:

New Scientist, a popular site with over 3 million unique visitors a month, initially responded to the nation's first abortion ban based on fetal pain in April 2010 with a simple "briefing" that wasn't widely repeated throughout the web. The article focused on discrediting Nebraska's 20-week abortion "Fetal Pain" restriction as "debatable."

Late last week, New Scientist followed up (HT Tabitha Hale's Amplify) with a direct refutation of the "pain claim" by citing a UK study that had been picked up by UPI and the AP for mass distribution.

This study has subsequently appeared in Time, CBS, The Money Times, MSNBC, and The Washington Post.

The headliner for these articles on the UK study generally state, " Fetus Can't Feel Pain  Before 24 Weeks." What these articles aren't telling the public is that this study advocates absolutely no regard for the pain (and therefore treatment of pain) of the unborn before or after 24 weeks - throughout the duration of the pregnancy, in fact - even for corrective procedures performed on fetuses in utero, something that is typically done here in the United States.

In the United States, we have our own studies concluding the opposite of the UK study. Methods of administering fetal anesthesia are widely discussed. This is the neonatal care standard we've practiced here in the United States as our technology advances. Neonatal care is a profession.

The widespread dissemination by the leftist mainstream media of this worthless UK study that can readily by discredited by medical studies and medical methodology accepted and practiced here in the US flies in the face of reason -- so much so, one can easily assume why abortionists would be interested in dismissing the pain of the littlest ones.

Back in April, Nebraska passed the first-ever "Fetal "Pain" abortion bill -- the “Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act” (LB 1103 ) -- to prevent the abortions of fetuses older than 20 weeks...

...by an overwhelming pro-life majority of 44 in favor and 5 against. The governor wasted no time in signing the measure into law.The law portends a fresh challenge and new look at the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton cases, which led to the virtual legalization of abortion on demand. The Nebraska law applies a different standard – that of the unborn child’s ability to feel pain - for restricting abortion, while the high court used the standard of what they then considered to be point of fetal viability.

The Supreme Court considered fetuses "viable" beginning at 24 weeks when deciding Roe v. Wade, a mistake subsequent Justices would argue :

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor argued in a 1983 decision that Roe was on a "collision course with itself." She said that improvements in technology would continually push the point of fetal viability closer to the beginning of the pregnancy, allowing states greater opportunity to regulate the right to an abortion.

Nebraska's LB 1103 would be is the first state to regulate abortion according to the interests of the baby, not according to the interests of the mother:

"The Nebraska Legislature took a bold step today which should ratchet up the abortion debate across America," said Julie Schmit-Albin, Executive Director of Nebraska Right to Life in a statement.

"LB 1103 creates a case of first impression for the courts to acknowledge the capability to feel pain as a compelling state interest to protect those unborn babies from an excruciatingly painful death.”

The legislation bans abortions after 20 weeks of post-fertilization age except in two cases: first, when the pregnancy puts the mother in danger of death or “substantial and irreversible” physical harm to a major bodily function. The second exception allows an abortionist to perform an abortion in order to increase the probability of a live birth, or to preserve an unborn child’s life and health after a live birth.

This is important, because this law shifts the argument from the focus of time restrictions for would-be aborting mothers to the focus of the effects of the abortion itself on the fetus -- from the interests of the mother to the interests of the child. It forces society and the courts to admit the human-ness of the fetus and consider their suffering in a very real death.

To pass LB 1103, Nebraska cited the 2004 testimony of Kanwaljeet Anand from the University of Tennessee Health Science Center who testified on the federal partial birth abortion ban (subsequently upheld by the Supreme Court in 2007):

Kanwaljeet “Sunny” Anand, a pioneer in the study of fetal pain and now a professor at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, testified in 2004 on the federal partial birth abortion ban that after 20 weeks gestation, an unborn child would experience “severe and excruciating pain” from an abortion.

The pain may even be more acute than it would be for older humans, as some research indicates their immature nervous systems have not developed coping mechanisms that help the body better endure pain.

The law notes that unborn children have been observed to “seek to evade certain stimuli” in a manner that “would be interpreted as a response to pain.” Additionally, the bill says unborn children exhibit “hormonal stress responses to painful stimuli” that were reduced with the application of pain medication.

Abortion supporters want to call that evasion of "certain stimuli" a reflex action, similar to a knee-jerk responding to a tap on the knee or a finger removing itself from a heat source before being sensed by the brain.

When Nebraska passed LB 1103 in April of this year, New Scientist.com came out with a 2-page rebuttal to the law's fetal-pain argument. The site claimed that changing the terms of abortion is inappropriate because pain experienced by fetuses as young as 20 weeks is "far from certain." The site's most vile assertion is the lie that "before most abortions the fetal heart is stopped by a drug – usually digoxin or potassium chloride . The fetus cannot feel pain after that."

Using digoxin or potassium chloride on fetuses did not begin to be seriously considered by abortionists until after the Supreme Court upheld the federal partial birth abortion ban in 2007, and only then for the abortion of fetuses older than 20 weeks. Even so, an "interest" by those who slaughter the unborn does not constitute a widespread, enforceable mandate.

Potassium chloride is also the same chemical used for the lethal injection of prisoners, a practice New Scientist claims is inhumane .

So while New Scientist will consider the inhumane manner of death of a condemned person, this same publication will blatantly dismiss the pain of the unborn as merely "reflexive," "irrelevant," and even "completely irrational."

Last week, New Scientist reiterated their support for abortion by using a study by the UKs Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG) to refute the opinion of American researchers. Keep in mind that the UK has full-blown socialized medicine , where abortion on demand has been rising for years and where medical procedures are pre-determined by committee according to "harms and benefits" -- or cost-effectiveness.

New Scientist cited a "working party report " that argues that since the pre-born fetuses exist in a state of unconsciousness, that consciousness is needed to experience pain. Therefore, pre-born fetuses, regardless of gestational age, "even after 24 weeks" would not benefit from pain medication.

"After 24 weeks there is continuing development and elaboration of intracortical networks" .. "Such connections to the cortex are necessary for pain experience but not sufficient , as experience of external stimuli requires consciousness . ..[T]he fetus never experiences a state of true wakefulness in utero ... [ i]s in a continuous sleep-like unconsciousness ... [that] suppress[es] higher cortical activation in the presence of intrusive external stimuli. ..

[I]n the light of current evidence, the Working Party concluded that the use of analgesia provided no clear benefit to the fetus. ... [F]etal analgesia should not be employed where the only consideration is concern about fetal awareness or pain . Similarly, there appeared to be no clear benefit in considering the need for fetal analgesia prior to termination of pregnancy, even after 24 weeks , in cases of fetal abnormality.

New Scientist ends their article with

"It is only after birth, with the separation of the baby from the uterus and the umbilical cord, that wakefulness truly begins."

According to the RCOG, only once that umbilical cord is cut can a child experience pain, never before.

By citing this wretched study, the argument of New Scientist and all pro-abortion advocates is clear:  pain experienced by fetuses in utero is hardly significant, and whatever ground the pro-life camp makes, the tide must be turned around, 360 degrees. Therefore, define fetuses as sub-human, never requiring pain medication, regardless of gestational age.

If the Supreme Court were to agree with the RCOG study, the issue of viability in Roe v. Wade would be moot. The experience of pain would be the true threshold, and that would only occur once the umbilical is cut when everyone can hear the newborn cry.

Abortionists like these subscribe to ideas similar to this one:

When a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, it doesn't make a sound.

Since these abortionists aren't there in the womb with the baby to see it writhe in pain, the baby's pain must not exist.

It would follow that neither does "a baby."

Crossposted at Redstate.

Shacking Up With Obama While Married to DC: It's All About Control, Baby

Y'know, there's a little mantra that exists about relationships, whispered between friends when they discuss their loves, their interests, their sex, whatever:

They're trying to control you.

You need out, man. You can't let her boss you around like that. You need to do what you want, when you want. You're in control of yo-sef. 

Girl, he's mistreatin' you again? And you're still with him? Don't you see he's got some kind of mind-control on you? The sex can't be that hot. He's tryin' to control you! 

Freedom, right? 

What "choice" have we predominately heard about when it comes to healthcare? Doctor choice? Clinic choice? Shot choice? No, pro-choice abortion. Ok? Your choice of deciding whether to have someone stick a probe up your uterus, suck your baby into a sink, or maybe syringe some saline solution to burn the baby out. If you're a guy, then it would apply to your choice of having your progeny decimated, it's brains squished and bloody body mangled enough to be poured into the same test tube you might use for donating your semen. Yeah, it's bad. Fight to keep your child alive.. or keep your boys safe to begin with. 

But, "choice." Because that "control" -- mind-control, sex control, intimidation control, whatever -- didn't allow you to choose to keep your legs shut or your penis in your pants in the first place. Because you didn't have a choice before conception, only after. 

Now it's come to light that someone actually admits that Obama's healthcare legislation is what conservatives knew all along: Control. Control over your medical choices.  Control over your medical decisions, what proponents of pro-choice  have argued against for decades: control over your body

A talk show host alludes to Democratic Representative Dingell:  if it's an emergency, if 18,000 people keep dying as a result of non-coverage, as dems proclaim, why are we waiting to implement socialized healthcare? Why over the course of years? Why not NOW? 

Dingell's response: we're not ready to control the people.

Oh, no. You're wrong, you say. They're not controlling our decisions. We can still choose our insurance and stuff. 

Nope. Guess who controls the insurance companies now. 

 

To you, I say this: leave him, honey. He isn't any good for you. If you think he's okay because he buys you trinkets, offers you a job, buys your dinner or pays your rent, it's all about control. Divorce yourself from the Progressive Movement and ditch Obama. 

Neither offer you your freedom.

HR 4933 and Global Healthcare - You Can't Make This Stuff Up

These progressives are relentless. 

Looks like the dems have submitted legislation to address Global Healthcare and health worker shortages via HR 4933 submitted 6 days ago on March 24, 2010.

To establish a strategy to coordinate all health-related United States foreign assistance, to assist developing countries in improving delivery of health services, and to establish an initiative to assist developing countries in strengthening their indigenous health workforces, and for other purposes.

This legislation is supported/advocated/by the American Medical Student Association which puts out their own 2009-2010 Legislative Agenda:

The following legislative agenda outlines the legislative and policy goals of the American Medical Student Association (AMSA), which pertain to the following legislative priorities:

  • Quality, Affordable Health Care for All
  • Primary Care Workforce Expansion
  • Student Debt Reduction
  • Racial and Ethnic Health Care Disparities
  • Provider and pharmaceutical industry conflicts of interest
  • Reproductive Health (Abortion)
  • Global Health Program Funding, Drug Availability, and Health Care Workforce Building

Read the rest of their overview here

Simply, there's a healthcare worker shortage in socialist Europe. This is a precursor of what Americans are about to suffer, and instead of jumping the gun and pre-empting the hurt here via our newly enacted Socialist Healthcare Legislation, we're taking care of WHO and European countries first. 

We'll probably get the Proof of Concept their working over in Chicago with volunteer healthcare workers. 

--So--

Doctors for 3rd world countries and European nations with deficient socialized healthcare systems ...  Volunteer healthcare workers for the American citizen

No wonder Obama wants 26-year-old "kids" covered on their parents' healthcare. And all this time, I thought it was prep for his 2012 election. 

What a nice trade up.

How to Counter the Executive Organizer - Vote for Repeal, Replace, Reform to Symbolize Unity

How can anyone legitimately ask any Democrat who didn't vote for Cubacare if they are pro-Repeal, Reform when members of our own GOP remain uncommitted to completely repealing this socialist legislation?

Tonight, there's word that Senate leadership are trying to scuttle any vote on repeal or the signing of any Amendment because:

moderate Republican senators who voted against Obamacare in December do not want to vote against it again because it would just be “symbolic”. McConnell agrees and is not inclined to push Republicans...

 Symbolic.

The Obama deems it symbolic to sign in the Green Room.

Patrick Kennedy deemed it symbolic to present Obama with the first Universal Healthcare bill Ted Kennedy signed in 1970.

But the the GOP deems it symbolic to only speak in absolutes to the media.

What sort of battle over America's freedom can conservatives wage if the Executive Organizer and his cohorts continues to trademark words such as "historic" and "unprecedented" -- while conservatives only consider actions on the basis of their symbolism, and not act?

Mind you: not voting, not signing is a move to dampen the spirit of the teapartiers, of the furious, of an enraged public and back into the chambers of decorum and negotiation within Congress.

Call your Senator. Tell him conservatives have a long tradition of not negotiating with those who hold liberty hostage.

We do not negotiate.

Dear Leader ZerO calls for Brownshirt Snitches on Healthcare Opposition

The Whitehouse has posted a request for their "brownshirts" to start snitching on their neighbors and friends. On August 4th 2009, the Whitehouse posted a request for information on anyone spreading opposition information on 'Government centric healthcare', meaning anyone opposed to government controlled healthcare.

From http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

They are calling on all of their Obamabots to become snitches and tattletales and informants on their neighbors and friends who simply oppose an Administration policy. This is what they called brownshirts in other administrations of the past.

Do you know an Obamabot? Be careful what you say around them, or you may end up on a Whitehouse list. If you spread the 2003 quote from Barack Obama regarding his ultimate plans for government control of health care :

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

You could be targeted by the 'brownshirts' amongst us for spreading 'disinformation'.

They don't say what they will do with the information gleaned from their Obamabots. You can picture it now, Obamabots lurking around groups of friends, neighbors or co-workers, listening and scurrilously writing down names. Gleefully slinking to their computer to email flag@whitehouse.gov with every sordid detail.

Dear Leader ZerO has been using the Marxist tutor Saul Alinsky method where overloading the welfare system was the surest way to bring down capitalism and bring about socialism. By adding more people to the all ready broke and broken government health care plans, the system would be overloaded and a pure socialist solution could be proposed. This is why he wants a plan that is deficit neutral and thus underfunded, to increase it's load and hasten it's implosion.

Now he calls forth another tactic of up and coming Dictators and asks his Obamabots to inform on his opposition. Well, let's use some Alinsky tactics. Overload flag@whitehouse.gov with the kind of information they deserve. Do your duty America. Send an email to flag@whitehouse.gov. Some sample content would be telling them about the pile of excrement your neighbors dog has deposited in opposition to the Health Care plan, or some simple ASCII art like :

Remember, Dear Leader ZerO has asked you to be a good citizen, email flag@whitehouse.gov with your report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAwjEaXWXs

 

Obama the Medicine Man

The Messiah calls them from all over. The hopeful, sick from diabetes, arthritis, cancer, and every other disease and ailment known to mankind. All of them seeking the Messiah that can divine what ails them and cure them. But like any good Faith Healer or Medicine Man, there is something going on behind the curtain.

On July 1st, 2009, Dear Leader ZerO held an 'open, on-line' town hall meeting to get honest unscripted questions from the public at large about his Health-care plan. His staff prescreened the questions posed online through Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter. No doubt to make sure they gave Dear Leader ZerO the hard insightful questions asked about his health-care plan. Questions about the costs in money and debt. The queries about procedures and tests that would be rationed, forbidden or delayed to cut costs.

In the town hall audience, three lucky people where given a chance to ask their questions. Exhibit 'A' was Debbie Smith, from Organizing for America. The second was Jason Rosenbaum, who works for Health Care for America Now. The third was an unnamed Service Employees International Union employee.

Debbie Smith may be "unemployed", but that hasn't stopped her from working for the Obama campaign as a volunteer at Organizing for America. Organizing for America is the Obama election machine that used to be called Obama for Change. They renamed themselves and moved under the auspices of the Democratic National Committee. Debbie Smith has also identified herself as a worker for the Virginia Organizing Project. Perhaps if she spent less time working her two jobs for Dear Leader ZerO, she would have the time to get a job for someone that actually paid wages and benefits. Instead of trying to help someone steal money from other hard working people to pay for her unemployment and health benefits.

Among Debbie Smith's unemployed accomplishments she moderated "a community discussion on health care issues" in Appalachia, Va. during December 2008. She told the local paper at the time the meeting "would be reported back to former Sen. Tom Daschle". Forming a committee to report to on health-care issues was a prime directive given Senator Tom Daschle by then President-elect Barack Obama. He is in constant contact with Dear Leader ZerO's team. Daschle told The Associated Press in a recent media meeting on health-care reform, "We interact with them daily." This despite his failed Health and Human Services Cabinet-nomination. Since he can't be a Cabinet member, he can be a secret Health Czar.

Jason Rosenbaum works for the George Soros linked lobbying project in Washington, D.C. called Health Care for America Now (HCAN). This is a K Street Lobby Group with a $40 million budget to lobby Congress for government-run health care. Debbie Smith's second job, Virginia Organizing Project has been coordinating trips and healthcare forums with Jason Rosenbaum's HCAN.

The unnamed questioner was from Service Employees International Union. A former SEIU health-care lobbyist by the name of Patrick Gaspard is now White House director of the Office of Political Affairs. The SEIU president is Andy Stern who boasted gleefully of spending nearly $61 million in dues money paid by SEIU members to elect Barack Obama. No doubt a wise investment. Spending money that isn't yours to help Dear Leader ZerO get elected so that SEIU employees could get free benefits paid for by taxpayers. Not having to pay them from Union dues, Andy Stern would have more SEIU money to support more political cronyism.

No doubt this audience was not stacked with plants and shills at all and represents Americans and the questions they have 100%. We all are either volunteers for Dear Leader ZerO, or we are lobbyists working on Dear Leader ZerO's agenda, or we are employees of a Union that spends our dues to support Dear Leader ZerO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcTcR4Zs-4

The Dem's Winning Strategy to Implement Universal Healthcare

This The Hill article provides a glimpse of the probable Dem. strategy for enacting socialized healthcare: incremental legislation over the next two to four years.

A spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) predicted Monday that the House would “take a major step” toward comprehensive health reform this year, a comment that appears to contrast with a member of her leadership team.

Over the weekend, House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said in a C-SPAN interview that he does not expect a health reform bill to pass Congress in 2009 and prefers to see the issue dealt with “incrementally.”

House Democrats are already taking “incremental steps” toward health reform, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly wrote in an e-mail before suggesting more sweeping action in the near future.

The House already passed an expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and is working on an economic stimulus bill that includes provisions to shore up the Medicaid program, facilitate displaced workers maintaining their private insurance benefits and allocate funding to other healthcare priorities, Daly noted.

“There are some incremental steps that we are taking — first we did SCHIP, then in our economic recovery package, we have money to help stem the tide of people losing health insurance — coverage for Medicaid and COBRA. There is also money for quality, Health IT, comparative effectiveness and wellness, and money for prevention,” Daly wrote.

“And we will take a major step forward this year to increase the number of people who have healthcare coverage,” Daly wrote.

 “Incremental” is an unwelcome and loaded term among would-be health reformers.

"Incremental" is an unwelcome word for advocates of a true free-market healthcare system, too. 

Medicaid, Medicare and SCHIP (I'm intentionally leaving veterans' programs out of this picture), once initially implemented, have continued to expand at an incremental basis. So long as Democrats continue to receive enough Republican votes merely to pass each upcoming spending increase, they will realize their ultimate goal: universal government healthcare.

We know the excuses GOP legislators will make, because we've heard them all before. Some Republican legislators will vote for an expansion of Medicaid benefits because it's "for the children."  Other Republicans will vote to expand Medicare so they aren't portrayed as kicking senior citizens to the curb. SCHIP is for working families, and so on.

The sector of the Republican Party in favor of Real-ID, NSA/TSA/(insert branch here) databases, etc. may indeed relish spending money on health care databases.  We shouldn't tell private companies how to operate, but with COBRA the end justify the means. 

Heck, Medicare Part D was even pushed by key Republicans. 

Perhaps we should follow Great Britian's example and spend more money on "wellness" by creating a Department of Food Police.  In a 2006 article about U.S. food police, the NY Times noted:

A look at what's happening on the state level confirms this. In Arkansas, for instance, children's report cards now include their B.M.I., or body mass index, along with their grades. The governor, Mike Huckabee recently lost more than 100 pounds and is passionate about stopping the "obesity epidemic." Maryland is considering a similar standard.

It doesn't take a majority of Republican votes to push us closer to a complete government takeover of our healthcare system.  It only takes a handful of votes here or there for the Dems to gain a bit more ground as each new expansion of government healthcare control passes through Congress.

I doubt the Democrats will try another Clinton-style heathcare grab.  Why should they?  They lost on Hillarycare but they'll continue to win new ground, year after year, with their incremental approach.

And there isn't a strong enough consensus inside the GOP to stop them.

Socialized Healthcare: WWRRD?

"...the political survival of the Republican party probably depends on its defeating whatever health-care plan emerges from the scrum created by Messrs. Obama, Baucus, Kennedy, and Wyden.

"If the GOP fails, the beating it took in 2008 will pale in comparison to the decades-long drubbing that will follow." -- Cato's Michael Cannon, November 18, 2008

It seems that in recent national GOP debates, whether they are between presidential candidates or RNC Chairman hopefuls, there is a direct competition to see who can appear the most Reaganesque.

With respect to socialized healthcare, it seems that the GOP is divided into four factions: those really opposed to socialized healthcare, those who don't think socialized heathcare can be defeated, those who don't care that much about socialized healthcare but wish to gain as much political turf as possible over the issue, and those who actually favor additional government intervention into the healthcare marketplace.

I'd like to briefly address each of these four groups (after the jump).

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