Don't Count Britain Out

Crossposted at Right Minds

A lot of conservative pundits spend a lot of time predicting the imminent spiritual demise of Great Britain. Mark Steyn wondered “whether a nation that has "lost the stomach for a fight" has also lost its survival instinct,” pointing out that Great Britain is ignominiously withdrawing from Iraq, with most of its troops leaving before spring.

Theodore Dalrymple, in an article entitled “The Quivering Upper Lip,” writes that “when my mother arrived in England…she found the people admirable, though not without the defects that corresponded to their virtues. By the time she died, two-thirds of a century later, she found them rude, dishonest, and charmless”. And Britain is saddled with dozens of ridiculous laws seemingly designed solely to protect criminals. (For example, a man who held off two robbers with a toy gun was arrested for breaking gun laws; barbed wire is illegal in some parts of England because it’s dangerous to criminals). These laws have a predictable effect, with crime rates skyrocketing in many English cities.

And not only is England dangerous to live in, its culture seems to be coarsening to the point that no one would want to. Binge drinking is, apparently, shockingly prevalent among young people, and the many embrace the “chav” culture. (“Chav” is a British term for a working class hooligan, used in much the way “white trash” is used here).

And British political correctness is infamous. Catholic bishops are discussing modifying Catholic school restrooms to permit Muslim ritual washing—but spend time trying to make doing the “hokey pokey” a hate crime. (The hokey pokey was originally a bit of anti-Catholic doggerel). In England, no effort is spared to promote any culture, belief system, or religion (particularly Muslim)—except anything connected with Western culture.

So it doesn’t look very good for Great Britain—it is losing it’s culture war, it has lost its war on crime, and it has seemingly lost its will to fight abroad. So are Steyn, Dalrymple, and the rest justified in predicting England’s demise?

Maybe. But there are at least a few things in England’s favor, and it would be premature to count Britain out.

First, the Conservatives will almost certainly win the next British general election, making David Cameron the next Prime Minister. Cameron is no Margret Thatcher—but he is no Liberal either. He won’t stop England’s leftward tailspin—but he could slow it significantly.

And Britain’s army is still strong—by all accounts, its problems in Iraq stem from poor leadership. Britain’s individual soldiers did their country proud, and Britain still has a technologically advanced military force.

And England was one of the first to join the “coalition of the willing.” So it hasn’t lost all its martial spirit—just its stamina for war. England hasn’t wholly lost the will to fight—it just doesn’t see what is widely regarded as an American war as worth fighting for.

England’s cultural problems run a bit deeper. Like many liberal-dominated countries, it seems to feel that its culture is something to apologize for, and that every other culture has been so oppressed that it requires massive affirmative action to compensate. And the rule of law is spotty at best—serious criminals get off due to technicalities or absurdly light sentences. And that sort of cultural coma is very difficult to change.

But it can be reversed. During the twenties, Germany was in worse shape than Britain—apathetic and unruly, but with runaway inflation and a weak government. But ten years later, it conquered most of Europe. (Although Germany’s revival came at a horrible cost). And after World War II, both Germany and Japan overcame devastated cities and huge loss of life to become powerful economies.

Britain could see a similar turnaround. A hundred years ago, Britain had the largest empire on earth. It would be foolish to preemptively relegate England to second-class nation status. 

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England is worth less than Mexico

this is something to contemplate. Like it or not, England is second world, if not by the strict definition.

Truly,

did you at no point stop and think that perhaps comparing a resurgent Britain to the rise of Nazi Germany was a poor example? I take no issue with your comparisons to post-WWII Germany and Japan, but out of all the examples of nations and peoples to have overcome adversity, the Third Reich is the first to come to mind?

I don't necessarily take issue with you saying it, by all means you should write what you want, but it is a poor bit of rhetoric. To include this in a persuasive piece would seem to be counter intuitive.

As I pointed out, the Nazi

As I pointed out, the Nazi Germany revival was at a horrible cost, but it is represents one of the best examples of a European country quickly turning around. And it's worth remembering, I think, that even if England changes, it won't necessarily change for the better--it could go from ridiculously permissive to fascist. It's quite possible that England will become a major international player again, at the expense of human rights.

germans rode on a wave of science.

if you want to look for the next Scientific Superpower, try India.

GWB has driven many researchers back there already....

I'm not sure I'd want to see that

I hope your not saying that a resurgent, fascist country that is politically aggressive would be a good thing, even if it is Great Britain.

I don't understand why there is this wringing of hands over Britain's apparent decline. They're still a nuclear power, still in the top ten economies of the world, and still have an army that, individual soldier against individual soldier, is second only to the U.S and even some would argue that isn't the case. Not to mention a well educated and industrious population, and seem poised to weather the coming economic turmoil better than others in the European neighborhood and even the U.S.

There are lots of countries that have problems, but England's seem to be relatively mild compared to the rest of the world.

Imagine being able to raise a family

without having to worry about amassing $125K per child for college tuition or paying $12K per year for health insurance.

given half a year, japan's military is better than england's

any day of the week.

England is going to hell in a hurry. And Mexico has the same global power as England, nowadays.