Krugman and the Tea Parties

Crossposted at Right Minds

The Tea Parties, and Tax Day, came and went Wednesday. The Tea Parties were reasonably well attended, with something like 250,000 protesters showing up across the nation. Protests aren’t my thing (I can think of many more useful ways of spending my time), and the only way I’d go to one of these protests would be out of curiosity on a day in which I had nothing else to do (those days are rare), but those who did go seemed satisfied.

The conservative media gave the Tea Parties lots of praise, just as one would expect. Predictably, Fox News gave the protests positive coverage, while CNN and MSNBC provided negative coverage. The worst were the “teabagging” jokes (a reference to a sexual act) on CNN and MSNBC, which are really staggeringly unfunny. All that was exactly what you would expect.

What was unexpected, at least to me, was the reaction of prominent liberals. No one could expect that they would like or approve of the protests. But the typical liberal reaction was much more vehement, and much more worried, than I expected them to be. They seemed almost…afraid.

One example of this is Paul Krugman. Krugman is the farthest thing from a hack, or an extremist. He has won a Nobel Prize, and is a respected columnist for the New York Times. He’s a scholar—other economists take his work seriously.

But his pre-Tea Parties column was just stupid. Some of his points are, in my opinion, wrong, but definitely debatable, so I’ll grant that saying that the only true policy debates are within the Democratic Party, that the Tea Parties are embarrassing and fit for mockery, and that the GOP “looked as crazy 10 or 15 years ago as it does now” are points that are at least arguable. And while Krugman is unfair in picking out isolated examples of unadulterated craziness (Obama birth certificate Truthers) in order to smear the whole movement, that “guilt by association” strategy is merely unfair, not stupid.

But without including all that, there is still plenty of stupidity in Krugman’s article. He tries to link those isolated idiots who are convinced that Obama is ineligible for the presidency with the mainstream of the Republican party, providing a convoluted parallel which compares the birth certificate people to Vince Foster conspiracy theorists, and the Vince Foster theorists to Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh once (irresponsibly) suggested that possibly the theories surrounding Foster’s death had some truth, which in Krugman’s mind apparently translates into Limbaugh relentlessly pushing those theories. 

Krugman expanded on his anti-Rush theme, comparing the apologies he has extracted from those Republicans foolish enough to criticize him to Stalinist show trials, which is unfair on many levels. He says that while it is “new to have a talk show host in that role” (apparently, no editors at the New York Times noticed that “that role” was never defined), such party discipline is nothing new. Apparently, Stalinist show trials are business as usual for Republicans.

The rest is more of the same—Krugman rambles on about evolution, Astroturfing (which Krugman defines are “fake grass roots events,” although the Tea Parties seemed as genuine was any grass root event, and anyway I don’t see that it matters who, if anyone, was behind them), Fox News, and the 2000 presidential election, all of which he relates somehow to the Tea Parties. (Some Tea Partiers protest evolution too, Fox News gave the events favorable coverage, etc).

Krugman’s point, as far as he has one, is that the Republican party needs to grow up and move on. (Actually, he is right, though for none of the reasons he cites in his column). But the fact that the only evidence he presents are some slightly silly but harmless protests, and every liberal talking point used against conservatives sounds inconsistent. His argument would be a lot more persuasive if he moved on (to borrow a phrase) and stopped spreading liberal paranoia about Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and any gathering of conservatives with more than three people.  

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You are right....

....Krugman and the Left are frighten of what they see in the Tea Party movement -- an authentic nonpartisan political upraising.  They saw a real "We, the People" movement and realized they weren't part of it as they had always assumed they were. They saw another truth other than their own and realize their truth is now politically venerable. They have felt -- they still feel -- that flash of uncertainty when a real truth is uttered in the face of their own. They now know the simple truth, as we have all known since September, 2008, you can't save freedom by taking it away.

We want our country back.

ex animo

davidfarrar

Keep it alive!

The Tea Parties were a huge success in spite of the mainstream media poo pooing and acting like hethons on the air with a play on words. I wonder how they knew so much about such things.  Now we have to get to work and keep the momentum going. Contact your local Tea Party and get involved, get others involved and help us in Des Moines IA stay involved by helping us to network all the Tea Parties across the nation. Please go to www.desmoinesteaparty.com and share your ideas and experience strength and hope.  We must continue to grow our numbers and speak in one nation under God voice. They hope it is over but it has just begun. 2010 WILL bring change. RE ELECT NO ONE!

Krugman's been a bit bipolar of late

he oscillates from being a really transparent partisan Democratic talking head and offering a jaundiced view of the merits of Obamanomics.

Watching a Nobel Prize winner spout off like some low rent clone of Keith Olbermann reminds me of stuff from my youth. It's like the science nerd who joins the renegade frat on campus so people still think he's "cool" 

On the subject of truth, conspiracy theories & irresponsibility

Good article overall, but I would like to take one area to task not only with Daniel, but with other conservative authors on The Next Right who've made statements in harmony with this one:

But without including all that, there is still plenty of stupidity in Krugman’s article. He tries to link those isolated idiots who are convinced that Obama is ineligible for the presidency with the mainstream of the Republican party, providing a convoluted parallel which compares the birth certificate people to Vince Foster conspiracy theorists, and the Vince Foster theorists to Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh once (irresponsibly) suggested that possibly the theories surrounding Foster’s death had some truth, which in Krugman’s mind apparently translates into Limbaugh relentlessly pushing those theories.

I've read opinions by many online that the tea parties aren't simply about taxes and spending, they're also about liberty and the Constitution, which affords people the opportunity to voice their opinions in what we all hope is an appropriate manner. 

Some people have genuinely legitimate questions surrounding the birth of Barack Obama, the death of Vince Foster, the circumstances surrounding 9/11 and the Oklahoma City Bombing, the agenda for going to war in Iraq, the deaths of JFK, RFK and MLK, and so on, which are not aligned with the official mainstream explanation.  But are these people actually idiots, and are they truly irresponsible?  Honestly, I'm agnostic about what the truth may or may not be in some of these situations and it strikes me as fundamentally intriguing that some claim to be unequivocably certain that they do know (either pro or con).

The National Council for Excellence in Critical Thinking published this definition of critical thinking in 1987:

Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered from, or generated by, observation, experience, reflection, reasoning, or communication, as a guide to belief and action. In its exemplary form, it is based on universal intellectual values that transcend subject matter divisions: clarity, accuracy, precision, consistency, relevance, sound evidence, good reasons, depth, breadth, and fairness.

D.Q. McInerny wrote a nice little guide to good thinking titled Being Logical (Random House, 2005).  In it, he writes:

There are two basic types of objective facts, things and events.  A "thing" is an actually existing entity, animal, vegetable, or mineral.  The White House is an example of the first type of fact, and the asassination of Abraham Lincln of the second.

To determine the reality of a fact that is a thing, all you need to is pay it a visit.  If it actually exists it must be somewhere, and, assuming its place to be accessible to you, you can verify its factualness by direct observation.  If you cannot travel [to view this thing], you could take the word of a trustworthy eyewitness that the White House is indeed in Washington, D.C.  Or you could decide that photographic evidence is sufficient to establish factualness.

But what about an event like Lincoln's assassination?  We say that is a fact.  What is the justification for that claim?  It is an event that is over and done with, and there are no living witneses to the event whom we might consult.  Obviously, we did not ourselves witness the event, so direct evidence is out of the question.  In this case our approach will be to acquaint ourselves with a variety of things that serve as indirect evidence of the event.  For example, we would consult official documents (police reports, death certificate, etc.), newspaper accounts, photographs, memoirs, diaries, and items in the Congressional Record, all of which are facts in their own right and whose only reasonable explanation is the factualness of Lincoln's assassination.  On the basis of the factualness of these things, we establish the factualness of the event.  And thus we establish a historical fact.

To sum up how we get the facts straight:  If a given fact is an actually existing thing to which we have access, then the surest way to establish its factualness is to put ourselves in its presence.  We then have direct evidence of it.  If we cannot establish factualness by direct evidence, we must rigorously test the authenticity and reliability of whatever indirect evidence we appeal to so that, on the basis of that evidence, we can confidently establish the factualness of the thing.

It all comes down to the authenticity and reliability of our source. [emphases mine]

People who are familiar with my comments know that I read a wide variety of books, articles, research papers and very much enjoy exposing myself to all sides of a debate, not just the "official one".  I question authority because -- well I was going to say because I think it's "healthy" but perhaps that's a misnomer (irony intended).  Let's just say I find it illuminating to listen to both sides of the debate on certain conspiracy theories.

Daniel Pipes, in his book Conspiracy - How the Paranoid Style Flourishes and Where it Comes From, quotes Michael Billig:

The conspiracy theorist...is to the professional historian what the reasure-hunter is to the archaeologist; only in the case of the conspiracy theorists, there is no means of convincing them that their quick dig amonth the documents has revealed only false gold.

Of course if "History is written by the winners" as quoth George Orwell in his Tribune column "As I Please" on February 4, 1944, it appears that even the professional historian is prone to dig up a motherlode of pyrite every now and again as well, does it not?  Pipes goes on to say that "When the topic is conspiracy, it is often difficult to distinguish truth from falsehood".  So with one hand he criticises conspiracists while throwing them a bone with the other.  Why should this be the case?  Because it all comes down to the authenticity and reliability of our sources, that's why. My agnosticism regarding the "truth" in these matters is really a reflection of my detachment from absolute certainty about the validity of the sources of said truth.  Is this paranoia, or is this simply logical analysis?  I will leave the question open for discussion, but I won't refer to you as an irresponsible idiot if you disagree.

NOBEL AND NEW YORK

Al Gore got a Nobel Prize for a dvd that was probably made by Michael Moore, Nobel prize holds not the stature "for me" that it once did. New York Times ??... Well thats about as left as it gets now isn't it.