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Flip-flops and Governance
Praise of Obama from an unlikely source - Karl Rove - on an unlikely topic: Obama's flip-flops:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124286200693341141.html
Barack Obama inherited a set of national-security policies that he rejected during the campaign but now embraces as president. This is a stunning and welcome about-face.
For example, President Obama kept George W. Bush's military tribunals for terror detainees after calling them an "enormous failure" and a "legal black hole." His campaign claimed last summer that "court systems . . . are capable of convicting terrorists." Upon entering office, he found out they aren't.
He insisted in an interview with NBC in 2007 that Congress mandate "consequences" for "a failure to meet various benchmarks and milestones" on aid to Iraq. Earlier this month he fought off legislatively mandated benchmarks in the $97 billion funding bill for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Mr. Obama agreed on April 23 to American Civil Liberties Union demands to release investigative photos of detainee abuse. Now's he reversed himself. Pentagon officials apparently convinced him that releasing the photos would increase the risk to U.S. troops and civilian personnel.
Throughout his presidential campaign, Mr. Obama excoriated Mr. Bush's counterinsurgency strategy in Iraq, insisting it could not succeed. Earlier this year, facing increasing violence in Afghanistan, Mr. Obama rejected warnings of a "quagmire" and ordered more troops to that country. He isn't calling it a "surge" but that's what it is. He is applying in Afghanistan the counterinsurgency strategy Mr. Bush used in Iraq.
As a candidate, Mr. Obama promised to end the Iraq war by withdrawing all troops by March 2009. As president, he set a slower pace of drawdown. He has also said he will leave as many as 50,000 Americans troops there.
These reversals are both praiseworthy and evidence that, when it comes to national security, being briefed on terror threats as president is a lot different than placating MoveOn.org and Code Pink activists as a candidate. The realities of governing trump the realities of campaigning.
Interesting that Rove is calling it 'welcome'. Article is worth a read. The domestic Obama gets far less praise.
We see a 2-track approach with Obama. Like the previous Democrat in the WHite House, he says one thing and does another. But his reasoning and mode are different. The speech-Obama is an idealist but a moderate toned one. The action-Obama is doing everything he can to maintain his power at all levels, from pushing Chrysler bondholders, to big spending and huge new regulation initiatives. Thus, he ends up both more liberal at home and more aggressive overseas, a true LBJ-style guns-and-butter war-and-statism President.
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Obama is finding out what the rest of us know
That the ACLU, Code-Pink, and MoveOn.org do not have the best interests of the United States at heart, and that following them too far down their path of self hatred and apology will only weaken the country.
of course they have the best interests of the United States at
HEART. that's not the issue. The issue is methodology and means. And code pink, in particular, and MoveOn in general uses really poor means to propagandize.
"America never was America to me" -- Langston Hughes.
self-hate implies rather more consent than has generally been given by the losing party. Viva Democracy!
Can you tell me how the country would look
if you followed any of these organizations to their end games?
I think the ACLU would make us less free, Code-Pink would dismantle the military completely and open to defeat, and MoveOn.org would have us living in communes.
Not exactly the American dream. The ACLU is a disappointment. They started out with good intent and results.
the aclu defends pornography, among other things
I'm pretty sure they were involved in the "computerized models of kids" pornography case.
I don't think that it is likely to make us less free.
not going to comment on codepink, as I don't know what they stand for.
moveon is a relatively mainstream bunch of people, prone to getting "wicked" ideas that they actually put in print (betray-us was just a distraction, seriously, guys, wtf?). They really aren't all commune-supporters.
Personally, I like kibbutzniks, but it isn't a lifestyle for everyone.
ACLU
Yes, the ACLU does stake out a few genuine civil-libertarian positions. But it's not the heart of who they are anymore.
True story: At one point in my life I decided that I should join the ACLU. (What can I say, I was a stupid kid.) As it turns out, they transcribed my middle initial wrong from the application form, in a fairly unique way. I didn't think too much about it since the mail would still be delivered to me. Well, it didn't take long for me to start receiving lots of left-wing fundraising letters, addressed to me - with the screwed-up middle initial. I didn't get any fundraising material from the NRA or the National Right to Work Foundation. No, I got mail from gun-control groups and the DCCC. Funny that.
That was evidence enough for me right there that the ACLU isn't really an advocate of civil libertarian ideas, they are advocates for a particular type of left-wing viewpoint that simply happens to focus more on civil liberties than others.
oh, yeah, they are leftist
but they're still fundamentally a civil liberties organization.
to say that they'd take away liberties... seems kinda whacked.
ACLU and gun control
They support gun control. They support massive government intrusion into our lives. Their interpretation of "civil liberties" is ideologically-oriented.
the day the feds kick in the
the day the feds kick in the door to your trailer with a no-knock warrant because you bought a little too much cough syrup over the last 3 months, is the day you and every other so-called proud american will run with your tail between your legs to the ACLU claiming the government violated your "rights."
everybody hates the ACLU until they are standing at the business end the United States government and realize all the guns you have tucked away in your double wide don't amount to a thimble full of ant piss in the face of the power of Uncle Sam.
more than the ACLU
I thought along much the same lines when I joined the ACLU. Then I realized that they are not the only ones who speak up in defense of civil liberties. To join the ACLU is to buy into an entire left-wing narrative about civil rights, which I simply don't share. I can do better than that.
to each his own. the beauty
to each his own. the beauty of the organization is they'll fight for you even if you hate them.
Just ask Joe the Plumber
He couldn't get a return phone call from the ACLU.
The guy is a dufus, but his rights were clearly violated.
ACLU was founded by communists
... back in the 1920s. They wanted to advance the communist agenda and realized they needed to use the legal system in order to protect communists' ability to organize and advance their agenda. So ACLU was born as a legal protection org for the CPUSA.
Once you realize that heritage, the strange view they have starts to 'make sense'. They are for protecting all manner of "free speech" that is degenerative of society (KKK marches, flag burning, porn, etc) while ignoring attacks on speech rights that are not (eg wont lift a finger to defend free speech rights of Christian religious organizations, wont oppose unreasonable regulations in campaign finance, and actually oppose choice choice). Attacks on equal protection via affirmative action quotas? They support that. Undermining 10th amendment via federal tyranny? They support that. ...
The ACLU version of the Constitution is a skewed one is my point, and their agenda is not 'liberty' as traditionally understood.
Correct. They have a left-wing perspective and narrative on it. They are right in stopped-clock fashion when it comes to 1st amendment issues, but are wrong in their rewrite of state-church relations (pushing a secularist interpretation that undermines freedom of worship rights - this speaks to their jihad against a cross near San Diego and nativity symbols across the land), wrong on 8th amendment wrt death penalty, support abusing the 14th amendment (as noted above).
Cthulu Ftagn!
yes, can we please put up sacrificial altars? I'd love to see the flack that would get from the parental units! I mean, you saw what happened to Palin's Turkey thing...
I'm not of a religion that does animal sacrifices. But if you're going to put up crosses and such, I want the Great Spaghetti monster, and I want pagan ritualism too.
because that's what we call equal under the law.
You do realize that most of NYC was communist back in the 1920's? Russian Nationalism==Communism... until they saw Unca Joe Stalin -- and then they realized that something had gone REALLY fucking wrong.
Soviet Spies and Commies in 1920s-1930s
I only found out recently that there was a Congressman in the 1930s from New York who was a Soviet Spy. Strange but true. His activities was confirmed via the Venona Transcripts (the same ones that confirmed that Alger Hiss was a soviet spy after all as well).
I'll have to dig up the name. ... (oh yes, a Democrat of course!)
who else would you recommend? the EFF comes highly
recommended...
Conservative defenders of Constitutional Rights
http://www.thomasmore.org/default-sb_thomasmore.html?558612386
Thomas More Legal center
http://www.aclj.org/
ACLJ
http://www.cato.org/researcharea.php?display=9
CATO deserves special mention because they pushed the Heller v DC case, which ended up a landmark decision that for the first time in a century had the SCOTUS declare the individual right to keep and bear arms.
I also think EFF is a good organization overall.
Back to the original post
Now tha Obama fancies himself a brand manager (Chrysler) he may have another option on Gitmo:
This would be classically democrat. Just change trhe name and move on . . .bingo! Gitmo is CLOSED.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/22/rebranding-guantanamo-remains-possible-marketing-executives-say/