BloggingHeads.tv: The Week in Blog

I’m late to posting this, as I’ve been traveling for a few days, but better late than never. The nice people at Bloggingheads.tv were kind enough to invite me to participate in Friday’s edition of The Week in Blog. I was joined by regular host Bill Scher of Liberal Oasis (to whom I am very grateful; he was very kind, patient and thoughtful).

I am particularly enjoying the commenters at Bloggingheads.tv, many of whom seem to think that, as far as monsters go, I'm tolerable.  My favorite, I think, is this one…

Overall, though, I think Jon did a good job of defending the indefensible. Hope he comes back.

Thanks!  I think.

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Go Jon!

I watched the Bob & Mickey Century a couple of months ago and thought that this is really the wave of the future online - "diavlogs".  Good to see that Rich Lowry now has your company in providing a Conservative POV.  I'll be watching you and Bill at lunch over Kashi and chicken.  Glad to hear that Bill was a good guy who will most likely not give me Liberal Indigestion. 

Here's my partial review, FWIW

And please take this in the carmudgeonly, Auntie-esque way that it's intended, because my goal is to be constructive.  I only had time to watch about 20 minutes today, so here's what I observed during that time:

Scher admits there is plenty of oil (10B barrels in ANWR and 18B barrels on the shelf), his debate centers around prices in "2025".  Larry Kudlow has analyzed the way in which merely starting to drill now would  bring down the oil futures, which would in turn ratchet down the prices.  I would look into his analysis, among others on how speculation affects the prices.  But on the bright side, at least he admits there is oil as opposed to "salt water".  That's progress.

Regarding the review of your resume and the section on George Allen:  reminding  the listeners of the elephant in the room (no Republican pun intended of course) regarding "Macaca" might have seemed necessary, but was it?  And then when asked the question "Do you think he would have been a good President", to say you worked on his campaign but never even considered that thought seemed evasive and ineffective.  I'd say either go ahead and give your opinion, since you no longer work for Allen, in a professional way of course.  Something like "I think there were many good candidates available at the time, and Candidate X's policy positions reflected my goals and values better than George Allen's." 

Reiterating that conservatives feel McCain is unreliable, stabbed them in the back, a maverick who broke from the party which is either to his credit or discredit, again communicates weakness.  Unless you have a preference for McCaiin to lose, then find some position, any position. you can support and - like Macaca - it's not necessary to reiterate the negatives.    Yay! on the Rightosphere welcoming him back on the drilling issue.  Yay! on drilling not solving problem, but is an incremental step in right direction and the short term does eventually become the long term.

Scher brings up a very pertinent issue in stating that Bush has consistently talked about getting off oil and yet when he was in control and conservatives controlled congress, nothing was done on those fronts.  This is a major failure on the part of all Americans, including Bush.  What you did not mention, which I think needs to be completely driven home like a stake in the heart, is the passionate Liberal protests and stonewalls against nuclear power in addition to, or maybe even instead of bring up the flashy Manhattan Project and the fact that Bush provided incentives for corporations to perform R&D. 

Yay! you mentioned the lack of infrastructure - as it relates to hydrogen and electric, for example.  But you did not mention the sorry state of the Electrical Grid infrastructure and the NIMBY attitude of communities and private owners regarding building new power stations and running power lines. 

Yay!  you mentioned low consumer demand for alternative energy vehicles.  Tell them it's the market, stupid.  Sher hoisted himself on his own petard by mentioning that he purchased a hybrid at a time when he needed a new car and admitted that a Prius is a much more expensive car than the average family could possibly afford.  My Corolla gets the same mpg as a Prius, and cost $8,000 less with the same options.  Victor Davis Hansen wrote about this recently - it's the difference in mindset between Fresno conservative working class folks and San Francisco liberal professional elites (with no children or at a minum both parents earning good incomes).  Liberals are completely out of touch on this issue.

I disagree that the "gas tax holiday" appeared as much as a pander/gimmick to the general public as it did to Obama staffers.  Any relief at the pump at all would have seemed like a great idea to the Fresno working class people living from pay check to pay check, and again - Obama seems to be seriously out of touch with these good folks. 

Regarding the September 10 mindset that McCain accused Obama of having in regard to treating Islamic Terror as a law enforcement issue, the fact is that the only reason the perpetrators were apprehended and tried is because of a major mistake made by one of their cohorts ("God's Most Stupidest Creature", I believe they called him).  Any mishandling of evidence or illegal procedures used in apprehending these perpetrators would have easily resulted in their dismissal.  So saying that Obama has a "rapid response" to answering the "attacks" against him does not in any way indicate that those rapid responses are actually coherent or strategically correct.  And calling a debate an attack is a patently ridiculous, baby-man victim-centric response on Obama's part - this is a debate between McCain and Obama, not a war…that shows great weakness on Obama's part.  He'd be much better served by referring to McCain as "my worthy opponent" as opposed to "my attacker".  But I digress...

Scher was absolutely swaggering at this point in the conversation, with the "Let's Have It!" bring-it-on posturing.  Heh.  I was waiting for the cheerleaders to come out and compete, or for the Stomp-the-Yard scene from Meet The Spartans!  Through what I observed so far of the interview, you were on defense and Scher was playing heavy (albeit very polite, much to his credit) offense.  And if we can make the analogy as my husband always does that "Life is Football", then we really need to reposition ourselves to being on offense

If there is any way during these interviews to look at the camera and not down, that would greatly add to the image of confidence and self-assurance.  I've mentioned NLP in previous comments, and NLP includes body language as a means of persuasion.  Looking down generally indicates someone is having strong emotion.  Naturally it also means someone is reading or looking at their keyboard, LOL, but that's not the point.  Look at the people by looking at the camera, and you'll persuade them so much more of your POV. 

And what's this about you not being a Conservative?  Does that mean you're a Moderate?  If so, then do say so.  Saying what you're not is to distance yourself from it.  Saying you're a Moderate only helps other Moderates to relate to you.  Not saying what you are at all, again, indicates indecision, lack of commitment, and either are perceived as weakness.  And if you're a Liberal, then say it as well - especially if you're a Liberal who's not voting for Obama!

It was a good initial effort, but more homework and practice will make for an excellent effort next time. 

Slainte mhor
 

 

Responses...

 

I disagree that the "gas tax holiday" appeared as much as a pander/gimmick to the general public as it did to Obama staffers.  Any relief at the pump at all would have seemed like a great idea to the Fresno working class people living from pay check to pay check, and again - Obama seems to be seriously out of touch with these good folks. 

I don't think there would have been any significant "relief" at all, not over anything but the very shortest of terms.  In any event, there are so many negative externalities that aren't captured in the consumer price of oil, I don't think it's a good idea to distribute the composition of our tax revenues away from it.  

Through what I observed so far of the interview, you were on defense and Scher was playing heavy (albeit very polite, much to his credit) offense. 

It was my first time doing the show, so I basically played Ginger Rogers to Scher's Fred Astaire. 

And what's this about you not being a Conservative?  Does that mean you're a Moderate?

I'm a libertarian.  I thought I mentioned it in the show, but I've always been very clear about it - here and anywhere else.

 

Thanks so much

for the speedy replies - especially as I bet we're both in between (or in) meetings.  I knew you were a Libertarian, but I thought you were a registered Republican, i.e. a Republican who's economically and not socially conservative, and my [limited] experience with Libertarians is that they also fall into the categories of conservatives, liberals, and moderates.  Bear with me if I've got that wrong, especially since that was the reason for the lengthy critique - as I thought your agenda was to help McCain and Conservatives.  I'd never have guessed that was your first time!  Well done!!

So just for fun, is your position on McCain pro or con?  LOL it's okay if you want to say you've never even considered it one way or the other, it's none o' my business if you're not inclined to reveal.  I don't have enough bandwidth to read QandO right now, but when I do, I'll research more on your site.  If you're willing to say, though, it would be interesting to know if your alliance with Republican operatives on The Next Right as a hi-tech professional colleague, or if you're also working toward the goal of reforming the party and supporting Republicans of the more Libertarian persuasion. 

Libertarian

I'm a libertarian.  I thought I mentioned it in the show, but I've always been very clear about it - here and anywhere else.

Interesting. That gives me a frame of reference for your posts.

May I ask how Dayton and Ruffini self-identify?

He's a Libertarian....

...and he doesn't want the government leaving our money in our pockets, if only for a while?

By the way what does this mean, "I don't think there would have been any significant "relief" at all, not over anything but the very shortest of terms.  In any event, there are so many negative externalities that aren't captured in the consumer price of oil, I don't think it's a good idea to distribute the composition of our tax revenues away from it.?"

18 cents per gallon is 18 cents per gallon that remains in my pocket,  and the government would pay hell trying to reestablish it if the gas price doesn't go down below $4.00 per gallon...and he doesn't think it's a good idea to distribute the composition of our tax revenues in this fashion?  What type of Libertarian is that?

ex animo

davidfarrar

Thanks for the response and the kind words...

I knew you were a Libertarian, but I thought you were a registered Republican, i.e. a Republican who's economically and not socially conservative...

I like to borrow and paraphrase a line from Whitaker Chambers: I am not a Republican, I am a man of the Right.   Here's the reasoning for that.  Another relevant explanation...

    • I tend to be a right-of-center libertarian because I'm more concerned about the loss of economic freedom than social freedom - in part, because I think the former will lead to the latter. Decades ago, we were talking about lobotomizing gay people, now we're talking about marrying them. We're not in danger of theocracy. We should be more concerned about what Brandeis called "insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." The "do-goodism" to which James Buchanan referred is the greater threat. After all, "the licentious sinners we can control; the saintly ascetics may destroy us."

    • Limited government is a fine idea. I wish we had a Party that believed in it.

Also...

So just for fun, is your position on McCain pro or con?

I've written a bit in the past on that question.   McCain is not my ideal, but I consider a Teddy Roosevelt Republican preferable to a Bush Republican.  I also think it's very, very important to prevent Democrats from consolidating control of the Senate, House and Presidency.  That seems like an invitation to disaster.  That said, if McCain picked Huckabee as a VP (unlikely, I think), that would scare the hell out of me for the future direction of the Party.  I'd have to look seriously at a protest vote (Bob Barr, perhaps, though I think the LP is a bad idea and a net drain on libertarian influence in the US). 

it would be interesting to know if your alliance with Republican operatives on The Next Right as a hi-tech professional colleague, or if you're also working toward the goal of reforming the party and supporting Republicans of the more Libertarian persuasion.

I would say it is both, but primarily the latter.   See here for something I've written previously on that.

May I ask how Dayton and Ruffini self-identify?

You would have to ask them.

He's a Libertarian .... ...and he doesn't want the government leaving our money in our pockets, if only for a while?

I don't think that's a tax cut.  It's a tax shift.  And it shifts taxes to more destructive channels.  I'm in favor of low taxes, but where it is going to happen, I'm also in favor of smarter taxation.  Frankly, I would support a tax reform that replaces the payroll tax with a carbon tax.   I think that would have enormous positive benefits.   Anyway, here's more info on why it's unlikely a gas tax would actually save you money.

 

You can't be serious?

Are you telling us, Sen. John McCain and Hillary Clinton were simply bluffing us?

If oil companies pad their prices to match the 18 cents per gallon federal tax cut, people will know it and will call for SEC investigations the likes of which we haven't seen in your lifetime...

Lowering the price of gas by 18 cents per gallon might cause an increase in consumption, at these prices, do you really think it's going to be enough to raise prices an equal amount? Again, if that was the case, SEC investigations would be triggered.

But even if the 18 cents federal tax cut doesn't actually lower gas prices, it will be seen by the people as an attempt by Congress to do the right thing, and put the oil companies squarely in the cross-hairs of public opinion.

But most importantly -- and this, apparently, is a political lesson you haven't yet to learn --  it will serve to teach the People why this country is presently in the situation it is now in far, far more efficiently than the Cato Institute ever thought of doing.

And finally, hasn't your dad ever told you,"Never look a gift horse in the mouth?" When a Congressman, and Congresswoman, suggest cutting taxes....take it first and deal with the consequences later, if for no other reason than to call their bluff.

ex animo

davidfarrar

Indiana gas tax holiday

I remember a few years back when Indiana had a tax holiday.  Prices dropped for about a week, and then everyone started driving more, so prices rose back up.  That's supply and demand, as explained in the link Jon provided.

Prices around here are already starting to stablize as demand has been reduced.

So economically, I don't think a gas tax holiday would provide much relief at all.  If anything it is just a psychological pick-me-up to effect peoples moods (which may not be a bad thing.)

But, on the flip side, there's the lost revenue that's not going to go towards improving our crumbling infrastructure.

Thanks so much for being accessible and willing to share

your philosophies, positions and perspectives with the site members, Jon.  I really appreciate the work that you, Patrick and Soren are doing to try to bring us (meaning those of all persuasions on the Right) into the 21st Century. 

The technology issues of Right vs. Left remind me of the 90's when I worked with many COBOL programmers who were stubbornly committed to that language because it had worked for 30 years for them, and they were experts at it.  Some saw the light at the end of the tunnel and realized it was actually a freight train.  Some decided to bite the bullet and learn C and C++, others absolutely refused to change.  COBOL programmers were in very high demand right up until Y2K never happened, and then rapidly became dinosaurs. I was always fascinated that the dinosaurs refused to take any personal responsibility for their career choices and constantly blamed "the damned foreigners who stole our jobs".  Programmers in India and China were early adaptors of OOP, which made it easy for them to take C and C++ to the next level of what's now the gold standard on the Internet:  Java. 

I have a tremendous, albeit grudging, respect for the Left's adoption of technology as a strategy.  When I see the high quality and innovation that many of their members are producing, my first instinct is that we should hire them as consultants.  That could be somewhat risky, however.  Heh.  I know there are also really smart, wired, high-tech Conservatives out there as well, and the work you three are doing to define the problem and provide a community resource to proliferate knowledge is extremely timely and valuable.   As far as developing a curriculum goes, maybe that will just naturally evolve over time.  I'm still interested in exploring how R-IGG could be utilized as a knowledge base and toolbox. 

Meanwhile, please keep up the great visibility on diavlogs, YouTube, C-SPAN, Fox News, WaPo, wherever and whenever you can get the word out that might recruit anyone from the merely curious to the highly skilled to help evolve a party whose very survival depends on augmenting previously successful "COBOL" strategies with high-tech "Object-Oriented" strategies.  In IT we say that the pioneers get all the arrows, and you guys are definitely pioneers.