WorldNetDaily Responds

I'm going to post more follow up on the WorldNetDaily issue - including the response I've gotten from the RNC - but first a round-up of the responses we've gotten from WND and their charming readers.

Joseph Farah at WorldNetDaily...

  • He says my call for right-of-center organizations to stop supporting WND's conspiracy peddling is "bullying tactics". 
  • He says he has never heard of me.
  • He says that WND didn't say they were "concentration camps"; they just said that the legislation "appears designed to create the type of detention center" that people "fear" could be used as "concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany."  He calls this "nuanced".
  • He claims I have called "for an all-out jihad against WND."
  • He says, "Am I scared? No, folks. I'm not." and says he's just standing up for "truth".

In The Washington Times, Farah "questioned Mr. Henke's motives and standing", arguing that The Next Right is "pretty much a Republican establishment group who has worked for the RNC and the Republican Party and I can certainly understand why a group like that would have problems with World Net Daily." He added "these are not journalists, they are political activists who have their own agendas."

So, he's taking the "you can't handle the truth!" approach so beloved by true believers and conspiracy theorists.  He also seems to think I'm part of the "Republican establishment" and aligned with the RNC.  This is an interesting argument, considering the fact that I'm trying to get the RNC to stop working with Joseph Farah.

Some WorldNetDaily readers also wrote to offer feedback. 

Dave says I'm a Commie Leftist or RINO and he does't read this blog.

"Tell me son are you a Commie Leftist incognito or just a RINO being stupid? I've read WND for years, which is more than I can say for your blog. I can't wait to read your blog after BO gets his army of maggots after you one day."

Randy Curtis says Birchers and Birthers were right and I've drunk the Kool-Aid

Actually you are embarrassing to the right but you wouldn't know the right from Adam's off ox.  History is showing that the Bircher's were right and while the "Birthers" may not be correct in their accusations they are right in demanding that Obama show what he has in order to prove what he says.  Instead he spends thousands to stop people from questioning him.  This is not a problem for you?  These questions could end tomorrow and we could look ar his Socialist agenda if he would put up.   Have another sip of Kool-aid and go to sleep since you disregard the founding documents and their principles. If you belong to the right then you should appreciate WND.

Carmen Valdes says I must be enjoying the traffic from WND (actually, WND doesn't really send much traffic) and I'm a communist:

you must be basking in the sun with all the free publicity you must be getting from Farah's editorial in WND directing traffic to your unknown little hole.  since you are in the same bed as media matters and the huffinton post no serious normal thinking conservative would be associated with the likes of you. why don't you direct your efforts to exposing obama's administration being run by communists and terrorists? what am i thinking? you are one of them

Jeffery says I am an "enemy of American", he's going to troll the web attacking me and our CAPTCHA sucks:

YOU sir are an enemy of America in the WORSE FORM! www.wnd.com is one of the FEW REAL INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST LEFT!! So I will be posting and suggesting a boycott of YOUR MOVEMENT all over the net today and the rest of the week, then month and maybe even year unless I see a retraction of some type from wnd.com. Have a good day. By the way your "captcha" makes no sense, the first word is no "word" at all.

Gunnery Sgt D.C. Robertson threatened me with violence and wrote a lot of things that I'm going to redact.

Jon,I hope you get a triple case of AIDS the next time you take it up the a**, you f*****g homo.  You and your putrid ilk put that Comie n****r in the White House and accidently woke up the silent majority of white, Christain, tax-paying Americans.  No longer will the soul of this great nation be intimidated by political correctness.   You f****d up buddy and now you have a front row seat to see the newly awakened vanquish the cancer of fascism from this land.  Oh, by the by, I do hope to meet you in person some day for a bit of attitude adjustment.Semper Fi, Motherf****r.

Plungeon offered his thoughts in ALL CAPS.  That's way more convincing than those sentence case arguments.

SHOULD WE FOLLOW OUR CONSTITUTION OR NOT?  DO THE TERM "NATURAL BORN" MEAN NUTTIN' TO YOU ALL?!  AHH....THE 14TH AMENDMENT: IS YOUR POSITION THAT WHEN AN ILLEGAL ALIEN DROPS A NEWBORN BABY ON OUR SOIL THAT THE BABY IS A U.S. CITIZEN?  IF SO, TRY REREADING OUR CONSTITUTION CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!

J.T. Wheeler thinks I was put up to this in order to help somebody stage a "coup".

You smell like a liberal.  It sounds like someone put you up to a hit piece on WND, to help commence a staged "right-wing" coup.

I wear the criticisms of Joseph Farah and his WorldNetDaily supporters like a badge of honor.

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Birth Certificate

Jon, I have one valid and simple question. Where is the birth certificate? This entire debate could be laid to rest by Obama producing the proof that he is what he (not to be confused with He) claims to be. That is not too much to ask.

Idiotic Birthers

 

I'm sick of these wackjob birthers with their idiotic "Where is the birth certificate?" refrain.

Do they expect Obama to stand at the door of the White House, birth certificate in hand, and spend 24x7 showing it to every wing-nut birther in existence? Because, that's what it would take. And even then, most would declare it a fake rather than acknowledge themselves as misguided fools.

The Republican Governor of

Hawaii

has declared his certificate authentic. Numerous senior Republican politicians have also declared it legitimate. Heck, there were even birth announcements in the local

Hawaii

papers the week he was born. The evidence is overwhelming to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. Unfortunately the birthers can't come to accept that a black democrat was fairly elected President. It's unthinkable, so therefore there must be a conspiracy. Ignorant fools.

 

 

Placenta

I, too have a valid and simple question. What proof do we have that Barack Obama was not hatched from an egg by an oviparous repitilian space alien? Why does he not simply release his placenta and lay this entire debate to rest?

Where is your birth certificate

elpasodon,

 I have one valid and simple question.  Where is your proof that  you are who you say you are and that you are a US citizen with standing to challenge Obama's right to the presidency? This entire debate could be laid to rest by you producing proof that you are what you (not to be confused with You) claim to be.  That is not too much to ask. 

Jon, I have one valid and

Jon, I have one valid and simple question.

I'm sure you do.  The problem is that you're never going to except any of the answers.  The birth certificate is in Hawaii.  It's been affirmed via the same legal process that would affirm anyone's citizenship there, no more, no less.

Personally, I don't think Sarah Palin is married.  Where is the marriage certificate?  She must go out of her way to placate my conspiracy theory, or else she's clearly hiding something!

 

LOL! Great stuff

I want to see the marriage certificate too!!!! And once she produces it, we can talk about how the seal is incorrect, the number is phoney, etc.

Obviously Jon is a Statist Pretend Conservative

Obviously Jon is a Statist Pretend Conservative because no true conservative would EVER call for a boycott of anyone exercising their free speech.

Why are you such a fascist hater-of-liberty, Jon?

Aside from the birth certificate, there is a host of other records from Obumble that have been sealed -- but you have no curiosity as to what is in those records?

You're a fake, Jon.

 

 

boycotts are all-American

Sad that you think WND's free speech requires Jon to shut up and not tell the truth about these crazy aunt in the conservative attic.

Calling on the Govt to censor WND, trying to get a 'fairness doctrine' shut down, or having a WHite House official trying to drum up boycotts (viz glenn beck), yeah that's fascist.

but an individual or group trying to 'boycott' or take a stand by economic means??? That's as american as apple pie. BEEN DOING IT SINCE THE BOSTON TEA PARTY!

I 'boycott' MSNBC on a nightly basis.

I wont visit WND either. They were annoying with far to many ads and popups well before they became trite and boring with their catering to fringe issues.

Joe Farah's not a bad guy, but he's in the wrong here and you need to think about whether its right to attack Jon Henke viciously for trying to clean up the act on the right.

"Aside from the birth certificate, there is a host of other records from Obumble that have been sealed"

SIgh... this PROVES JON'S POINT. You spout stuff that just aint so.

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

State officials from Hawaii vouched for his birth records being on file and him being born in Hawaii: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”

 

>"but an individual or group

>"but an individual or group trying to 'boycott' or take a stand by economic means??? That's as american as apple pie. BEEN DOING IT SINCE THE BOSTON TEA PARTY!"

Boycotts are what fascists do.  Sorry.  There are too many verminous scum who pretend to stand for conservative principles but don't.  You sound like one of them.

>"you need to think about whether its right to attack Jon Henke viciously for trying to clean up the act on the right.

"Attack Viciously?"  It's not like I called him a smelly hippie or anything.  I simply "question" those who purport to be conservative, yet find themselves on the "same side" as the likes of Huffington Post, etc ...

>"SIgh... this PROVES JON'S POINT. You spout stuff that just aint so."

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?  Go back and read my comment again.  I said "birth certificate ASIDE", and then asked about the myriad of other personal records Mr. Obama has had sealed.  So your coming back with a FactCheck link (FactCheck = Soros America-hating vermin) to the ostensible birth certification is rather dumb of you.

I am refering to his education records, which he has had sealed and has spent a reputed $1 million + on a legal team to keep sealed.  Why do you think Obumble won't let us see his school records?  Did we not all laugh at George Bush's C-average and Gore and Kerry's failed classes?  Did we not know all about Sarah Palin's Community College experience within a week of her bursting on the national scene?  Did we not all have to agree that Bill Clinton indisputably earned his Rhodes Scholarship?

We know all of that because none of those personages SEALED THEIR RECORDS!

Yet Obumble seals his and you have no problem with that.  Why?

birthers and their thin grasp of history, logic and facts

"Boycotts are what fascists do.  Sorry"

Yes, you do need to apologize for calling American revolutionaries who boycotted tea 'fascists'. If you believe in economic FREEDOM, then you believe in the right to ENGAGE in commerce and the right to ABSTAIN from commerce. Boycotts are nothing more than abstaining from commerce.

Your right to continue to read WND or another site is not restrained by a boycott. My and my friends are going to WHole Foods now, to counter the leftists boycott of WHole Foods, because their CEO wrote an excellent anti-ObamaCare WSJ oped.

Its a dumb boycott and I hope it doesnt work, but the lefties have the right to make it.

"There are too many verminous scum who pretend to stand for conservative principles but don't.  You sound like one of them."You sound like an idiot who is too stubborn to admit he's wrong and so will accuse other sensible conservatives of not being genuine for the crime of not falling for your own bad logic.

""Attack Viciously?"  It's not like I called him"

Not you per se,  I was thinking of those he quoted. But you called a boycott fascist which is not only wrong and stupid, it was viciously so.

" I simply "question" those who purport to be conservative"This is known as AD HOMINEM argumentation, a known logical fallacy. Question the wisdom of what he says, but not who he is. He's probably done more for conservatives than you.

"I am refering to his education records, which he has had sealed and has spent a reputed $1 million + on a legal team to keep sealed."Ahem ... that is NOT so. There is no attempt to legally hide those records because there is no legitimate lawsuit that would be able to get them.

"Yet Obumble seals his and you have no problem with that.  Why?"Birthers really are dumb, assuming stuff that isnt true. I never said I had no problem with that. I want to see Obama's college grades ... but how in the h*ll does that make Jon wrong? It doesnt! How does that make boycotts "fascist'? It doesnt! Why do birthers act so ignorant and make up 'facts' that arent so and assume that everyone who doesnt drink their koolaid is some libral?

Its beyond assinine.

 

No response?

Seems like complex and intelligent arguments are to birthers as sunlight is to vampires.

It's also nice to hear a strong conservative not touch a drop of the crazy (in this regard, anyway).

whole foods

why would you buy from whole foods who deal with terrorist linked companies and buy palistine products but refuses anything from isreal?

 >Boycotts are what fascists

 >Boycotts are what fascists do.  Sorry.  There are too many verminous scum who pretend to stand for conservative principles but don't.  You sound like one of them.

So, you are saying that the patriots at the Boston Tea Party were fascists.  I guess President Reagan, and both Presidents Bush are fascist for upholding the economic boycott and embargo of Cuba? Bill O'Reilly is a fascist for boycotting and calling for the boycott of French made goods after their political opposition to the Iraq War? The economic patriots of the 80's who were behind the "Made in America"  Buy American movement were fascists?  Boy, we need some of that fascism now! It is 2--dimensional, the right can do no wrong, even when we are plainly and obviously contradicting its values, zealots like you who are sadly bringing shame on this party to the eyes of all but the your fellow zealots.

 

I honestly thought you were

I honestly thought you were joking! But you're not. Damn.

self critique is the mark of integrity

and critiquing ones own movement is the sign of a principled activist. Cheers to you and your stand against WND. Yes, the substance of their attacks prove your original thesis correct.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste

What eloquent speakers for their cause!

If english ever becomes the official language, these guys are screwed.

(Can you get "triple AIDS" . . .?)

Birthers are the special-ed wing of the conservative movement

"Jon, I have one valid and simple question. Where is the birth certificate?"

While a valid question, birthers go off course either not listening or not learning from the facts, and the fact is that most of this issue has been answered and settled. Birthers come off a little retarded pretending to be ignorant of facts or actually believing fairy tale speculation over plain common sense and facts.

A few points:

- A COLB has been shared and photographed. This Certification of Live Birth is sufficient proof to get a passport.

- Not the same a a 'real' birth certificate? that's birther word games:

http://radamisto.blogspot.com/2009/07/birther-word-games.html

- the original birth certificate is in the state of Hawaii files. State officials from Hawaii vouched for his birth records being on file and him being born in Hawaii: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”

- There are plenty of reasons and plenty of evidence to conclude that Obama was born in Honolulu. There were Honolulu newspaper announcements of his birth, recollections that corroborate, the COLB, state officials vouching for his birth records, and the common sense that an 18-year-old student living on an island would have her baby where she lives and not fly off on a junket to have a baby. There is zero evidence of any other scenario other than Obama being born in Honolulu:

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2009/08/birther-madness-ii-bhos-birthp...

So to answer your question: Obama was born in Honolulu and the original birth certificate attesting to that is in the hands of the state of Hawaii, and the COLB that was made public and the state official statement attests to Obama's place of birth on that original birth certificate.

My question to YOU, the birther: Can you HONESTLY have any reasonable doubt at this point about Obama's place of birth?

 

 

 

prove it

dont want rehash my previous post

prove obama's mom was in HI first half of 1961 after being married that summer--or even right after married

Lacking Sympathy

I'd say you have my sympathy, but you don't.

The Right created this monster, first through the Southern Strategy, followed by the alliance with the Christian far-Right in the 90's along with the wink & nod pandering to the militia nuts and Vince Foster conspiracists of the latter Clinton years.

You made this bed.

Now you're going to have to lie in it for a while.

 

Did WFB boycott anything?

I greatly admire Jon Henke, but I'm not sure a boycott is the way to go. 

Generally speaking, boycotts are a flawed tool -- they almost always fail and they make the boycotters look intolerant of differing points of view.   Look at the Whole Foods boycott and the Palin-Letterman boycott -- neither of them had much real success at all. 

WorldNetDaily is obviously a site for low-IQ conservatives who believe in every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike.  I don't think the RNC should be subsidizing such efforts, but a publicized silencing effort isn't the way to go.  Just condemn them.

I don't think Buckley ever boycotted John Birchers, he just distanced himself away from them.  Buckley had a great deal of credibility with the Right back in those days, so his opinion meant something.

WFB kicked people out of National Review

That was the extent of his direct influence and he used it as he could to shape the movement in the way he thought best.

"I don't think Buckley ever boycotted John Birchers, he just distanced himself away from them"The concept would have been meaningless as the Birchers were not a commercial organization that *could* be boycotted. Just disassociation would suffice.

 Rush would be the equivalent today. He would need to go on radio and say "You know what, guys, there is all this stuff wrong with Obama, we dont need to make up bad stuff about him. And pretending he's not eligible to be President of the US is made up. He was born in Honolulu to a US citizen mother and he's 47. He satisfied the legal requirement to be President. Let's stop pretending otherwise and go about the business of defeating him and his party in 2010 and 2012."

That would do it.

Not just about the birth certificate....

What about Obama's applications in college?  What about his transcripts?  What about his trip to Pakistan when Pakistan was NOT allowing US passports?  From a man who ran on the pretence of being transparent he's got some explaining to do!  I think he got into college as a foreign student, hence his foreign passport. 

Personally i don't care if he was born in the US or not, regardless he has committing some fraud along the way whether it be actually being born outside the US or getting into college as a foreign student using his foreign passport.

BTW - I will never boycott WMD and conservatives that call other conservatives names like 'birthers' who challenge Obama's birth certificate are allienating them.  I for one have left the republican party after being a registered republican for over 30 years and volunteering every election year on republican campaigns.  Never again, not until I see Republicans returning to their core values of small government and individual responsibility.  To take a quote from Reagan and change it up a little, "I did not leave the republican party, the republican party left me"

birthers are not small-govt conservatives

" Never again, not until I see Republicans returning to their core values of small government and individual responsibility. "Good for you. Those are great core values.

But what do those core values have to do with the bizarre fairy tale belief that Obama wasnt born in Hawaii? Surely you dont buy that nonsense, do you?

Core values my a$$

" Never again, not until I see Republicans returning to their core values of small government and individual responsibility. "

Plus you have to wonder where all these people were when Bush was in office violating each and every one of these and other supposedly "Republican" values.  Why is it only when a (black) Democrat is in office that these values are so important?

Nikki - Not jus about Birth Cert doesn't go far enough

Nikki doesn't go far enough. She would be satisfied if BHO:

"What about Obama's applications in college?  What about his transcripts?  What about his trip to Pakistan when Pakistan was NOT allowing US passports?  From a man who ran on the pretence of being transparent he's got some explaining to do!  I think he got into college as a foreign student, hence his foreign passport. "

...............................

That's just not good enough.  Nikki is a victim of the single BHO lie. The commies successfully setup a second real LHO and waited for years and years for JFK to drive by the TSBP in Dallas.

They've done the same thing with BHO.  There's compelling evidence that it was a fake BHO who was born in Kenya.  The real BHO was born in Vancouver General Hospital.  Why Vancouver?  Because at that time, before everyone had to change in Atlanta, there were direct flights from Vancouver to Kenya with a stop in Hawaii.

Nikki, the truth is out there.  Don't let yourself settle for anyting else than the whole truth. 

By the way, I'm selling BHO Vancouver T-shirts, original birth certificates and tie pins.  I've contacted the same supplier WND uses and he'll supply me with all  the same merchandise as WND has with the proper correction.

Franchises available.

.............Please note that the above is satire.  But I do want to get in on the 2nd BHO movement

 

Good for you

For Birthers, townhallers and their ilk, no amount of evidence will ever convince them their dearly-held conspiracy theories have no basis in reality.

 

 

Birther's seem to be purposfully misunderstood.

Freedoms Truth wrote. - "My question to YOU, the bither: Can you HONESTLY have any reasonable doubt at this point about Obama's place of birth?"

On the face of it the posted "Certification of Live Birth" seems to provide enough information. It state "Barack Hussein Obama" was born in Hanolulu on August 4, 1961. That all sounds good and for most would seem to say, all is well. 

However it is the people who have looked at this issue and noted some things: 

1.) The "Certification" is not as complete in it's information as a "Certificate" is. 

2.) There is some confusion from Obama and family as to which hospital he was born in. Was it "Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children" or "Queens Medical Center in Honolulu"?

3.) Obama's grandmother said she was there at his birth (in Kenya). However it could be reasonable to assume she was mistaken. 

4.) There are legal questions as to weather his dual citizenship impacts his citizenship status (ie: he could be a citizen but not a natural citizen.) NOTE: Mandoli V. Acheson, 344 U.S.133 (1952) places seems to make this a little more difficult. Essentually someone would have to prove Obama was in a foriegn military. I will have to conceed that legally this is looking weaker and weaker given previous casis citing location rather than parentage as the defining factor. In which case we are back to item's 1, 2, and 3 above.

If any of those are reasonable to doubt then there is a doubt about Obama's status.

As to WND's coverage of the whole thing. You may not like that they keep asking questions but at least they are honest enough to post when an alleged Kenyan birth certificate was a fraud

 

Frankly Obama could have posted his birth certificate and squashed this whole thing long ago. Many US Citizen's think the President is accountable to us and should have to show why he is elligible for the office. How that legally works out is at question and there are plenting of courtcases tackling that question. However unless the Supreme court addresses it I doubt there will be any acceptence of the results as it looks like something is being hidden. 

Even then many will still think there is something wrong and may never believe Obama is a natural born citizen. Personally, I'd accept if they posted the Certificate.

In my ignorence I originally believed that the Certificate of Live Birth was required documentation that a person had to present in order to run for office. It was not till I heard of the Obama issue that I came to understand that was not the case. Reguardless of the Obama outcome. I hope it is something they require for all future elections.

TOO MANY WORDS!

One sentence answer needed: Where was Obama born?

HR 1503

Here's the funny thing about HR1503, the birther's bill of rights.  You would think that if it had been law for the 2008 election then BHO would have had to supply:

1. The real, original birth registration document.

2. The real original birth certificate.

3.  Sworn testimony from everyone in the hospital who was on that floor that they were not members of the Communist Party and  they could vouch that the mom had a kid there.

Nope. 

All it requires is that the candidate add some more documentation to the stuff that's already being sent to the Federal Election Commission.  Here's the exact words from HR1503:

candidate for election to the office of President, a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under section 5 of article II of the Constitution.'.

So what is needed? 

How about a state issued document that at the bottom reads: "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

Yup, that would be it. Let's pretend that in some fantasy land,  the Federal Election Commission isn't sure that the copy was enough.  So they send somebody to Hawaii with a letter from Obama authorizing them to get Obama's birth certificate.  The clerk takes their money and a few hours later they've got a birth certificate directly from the state.  

At that point,  unless you believe in a fake Obama, that's it.

 

Where is your birth certificate?

Really, until you prove that you are a United States citizen, I have a problem believing that have standing to challenge whether BHO complies with Constitutional  Requirements to be POTUS. Please note a copy of your certicate (even if certified by your birth state) is insufficient.  You must provide the actual and true birth certificate to satisfy me on this essential point of fact.

some facts wrong

your #4 is way off base--citizen does not equal natural born

also this case

MANDOLI V. ACHESON

deals with only "citizen" status not natural born. also I assume at the time of birth parents were permenent residents. (obama father was not)

polosi is required to certify obama met the requirment for dem ticket-  she didn't and committed fraud because the only thing that would of proved it was a colb posted on internet that HI wont even authenticate.

and also since there is doubt to being a natural born because of dual citizen status

"Free markets. Free people"

Jonathan Henke enjoys launching invective at WorldNetDaily.  After all, he's been called a "nazi racist homophobe" his entire life.  It feels good to do it to someone else.  Especially since there is no cost to him personally.  I mean, how can one lose customers  when one has  none?  How can one be fired when one is not paid?

More disturbing to me however is the monstrous duplicity exhibited. Mr Henke's other blog, "QandO" boasts, "Free markets.  Free people."  Freedom is a curious word.  It means something so important men have laid down their lives in defense of it.

What does freedom mean for Mr Henke?  Free for whom? I ask. 

Apparently, there is no freedom in his virtual world for those that spend their own time, their own money to expound ideas disliked by Mr Henke.  One might make an exception to this rather totalitarian act by Mr Henke were he a distinguished luminary of business or politics, an acknowledged expert for his life's opus.  But Mr Henke's own Wiki page reveals him to be, well, nobody.  He has never held steady employment.  Apart from his family, he appears to leave us no lasting accomplishments.  No companies bear his name and he appears only in the virtual land of Internet makebelieve.

Indeed, it appears to this inquirer that Mr Henke has very little to his credit apart from the ability to suspend his personal ethics to smash-mouth others.  Apparently, this qualifies one as "moderate" and "not fringe/kook".

Hmmmm.  In my home town of Philadelphia, such an unprovoked attack is considered something else entirely.  One wonders if Mr Henke's immature and boorish behaviour would improve after a Philadelphia "attitude adjustment".

Considering that his attack is is not conservative, not Libertarian, not even civil! but simply offensive and undisciplined, I am inclined to think it (his attitude) would improve after such an adjustment.  Certainly Mr Farah, his target, would get a free pass from any jury I can imagine in the city that gave us the United States in the first place.

Ciao,

The Spirit of '76

 

The Spirit of '76?

You left out "my dad can beat up his dad".

Typical loud mouth jerk -"why, if he ever came here I'd kick his ass . . ."

Go ask mom for more Tang and take your meds and your nap. You'll feel better.

Wow!

You WND fans are crazy!  This is some of the most hilarious AND frightening stuff I've ever read!

Don't Fear the Birther

The fact is, no one really knows where Obama was born.  You have to ask yourself why he would spend so much money fighting the legal challenges rather than simply showing the long form birth certificate.

The money that Obama is spending on legal fees could be better spent on more noble projects. That begs the question: If he cares about this country, why would he not end the debate by presenting his birth certifcate so that the money being spent to keep his birth records a secret could be spent making the world a better place?

As a matter of fact, all of his school records, passport records, and any other record of his past have been sealed. The most rational conclusion is that he must have something to hide.

A good journalist seeks the truth and doesn't take everything at face value. That is what WND is doing. They don't claim to know whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya or anywhere. They are simply doing what good journalists do. That is, seek the truth to unanswered questions.

Where Obama was born is not a matter of a convenient opinion that fits into an argument that you are trying to win. There is a real place and time that the event took place but so far, no legitimate documented proof of that event has been presented.

It is Constitutional law that the President of the United States must be a natural born citizen. It is the right of the citizens of the US to know if their President meets the requirements of the elected office.

Obama claimed that his administration was going to be transparent. Yet, his entire past is purposely shrouded in mystery and no one can answer why.

Strangely, those on the extreme left  don't even want to know the truth. That is dangerously ignorant. 

Don't fear the birther. Embrace them. If someone is out there who is attempting to seek the truth, more power to them.

The truth is what we all should seek, in everything. There is nothing more powerful or more important than the truth.  

The WND crowd is 100% correct

Majority rule is highly un-Democratic. It's fascist and communist and un-American. It's anti-freedom! We need to do away with majority rule ASAP and bring back that really cool theocratic monarchy we had from 2001-2009.

gotcha captcha

 When your "captcha" is insulted, it is time to step off to the curb!

It's Obama's Fault

And the Birthers are his tools. Axelrod has taken a weakness of Obama (his caginess) and transformed it into a powerful weapon of antagonization that keeps those on the right susceptible to paranoia paranoid. Now these people and their paranoia may be used to stigmatize any legitimate criticism of Obama as whacko. Thanks, Birthers, for allowing yourselves to be used as a weapon against the cause of freedom.

And Jon, when are you going to quit pecking shit with the chickens? The GOP can't be transformed from without or within; if it is to be transformed it must transfom itself, organically. We need to start a PRO-freedom PRO-American party, one that will force the GOP to join us, on our terms, not the other way around.

yours/

peter.

Birth Certificate

I am sure the Truthers, the Kennedy assassination and the moon landing hoaxers have "one valid and simple question".

What an honor!

Just because you want to shut down speech and ideas you disagree with, that does not make you a politically correct commie!  What are these nut jobs thinking????

The Best and the Brightest?

Why is it that those ranting the most about " the truth" have such a hard time with basic grammar, spelling, and punctuation?  Could it be because they're the worst and the dimmest?  Those who rant the loudest, use CAPITALIZATION TO EMPHASIZE THEIR WORDS, lots of exclamation points!!11!!!, etc., are demonstrating to everyone of moderate intelligence or above that they're of well-below average intelligence.

The Republican Party has been captured by lunatics and morons.  As a libertarian who wants Republican support to stand against the left's push against free markets, I'm appalled at what has happened.  The crazies are ensuring Democratic dominance for a generation.  If this comment infuriates you, then you're one of the crazies, and no matter how frantically you bleat about commies socialist fascists, you're the one who's doing the most to hurt your cause by doing a great job of convincing middle-of-the-road Americans that the Democrats are saner and more rational than Republicans.

Henke should wear your criticisms as a badge of honor.  He's right, and you foaming-at-the-mouth idiots are wrong.

 

But they speak the truth!

And truth is not constrained by your artificial elitist limitations of "language" and "logic".