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Submitted by kmorrison on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 11:32
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In last nights CNN broadcast Cambell Brown, Jeffery Toobin, and others called the McCain campaign’s ad about Senator Obama’s support for a bill for ‘comprehensive sex education for kindergarteners’ a lie.  One problem, they’re wrong.  The text of the bill states,

“Each class or course in comprehensive sex education in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.”

They repeated the Obama campaign’s explanation that the bill was about ‘inappropriate touching’.  Second problem, there is no reference to ‘inappropriate touching’ in the bill.  Byron York of National Review researched this bill and provides and an explantion along with the text of the bill in his article On Sex-Ed Ad, McCain is Right.  However, when this article was brought up during last night’s CNN broadcast it was dismissed. 

CNN didn’t do their homework and they should appologize and retract their statement that the McCain campaign lied.

Contact CNN and demand a retraction.

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Check the amendment.

Submitted by jay on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 12:48.

www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp

 

4    on page 1,  line  15,  after  "include",  by  inserting  "age
 5    appropriate"; and

 

Obama said the bill implements SEICUS standards

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 22:25.

Obama said the bill implements SEICUS standards, or at least that is what Obama said to defend his vote for comprehensive sex ed from Kindergarten on up.  He said that to make it sound 'approved'. The guidelines for even 5 to 8 years is a list of pornographic terms my wife and I dont let our kids even say. What SEICUS might call 'age appropriate' is to me, way way over the top and out-of-line. But then, I'm just a father trying to raise responsible children, and not one of the liberal know-it-all elitists who knows better than me when to teach kids this stuff. Some of the terms and sex stuff they would teach 5 to 8 yearolds are here: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2083199/posts?page=2

One comment on it: "Apparently telling 5-year-olds that it feels good to touch themselves is important, but telling 5-year-olds that they shouldn’t have sex isn’t." GOOD POINT!

 Obama voted for and defended sex ed for kids, including K-level kids, which is his right as a candidate. McCain has every right to raise this issue. I and McCain think we should focus on reading and writing at the K level. I think the McCain ad was not only fair, it was very restrained. It merely said Obama voted for sex ed for kindergarteners (True!), not the specific content that SEICUS recommends and Obama supports (which would make many parents livid).

 

  • "Before His Election To The U.S. Senate, Obama Was A State Senator And Chairman Of A Committee That Approved Legislation That Would Have Altered Illinois' Sex Education Standards To Include Instruction In Any Grade From Kindergarten Through 12th, Rather Than Grades 6-12." (Jim Davenport, "Romney Tries To Build SC Support With Appeal To Conservatives," The Associated Press, 7/19/07)
  • In Committee, Barack Obama Voted In Favor Of Legislation (S.B. 99) That Would Amend Requirements For Sex Education Classes. "Amends the School Code and the Critical Health Problems and Comprehensive Health Education Act. Changes and adds criteria that sex education classes and comprehensive health education programs must satisfy." (S.B. 99: Illinois Senate Health And Human Services Committee, Passed, 7-4-0, 3/6/03, Obama Voted Yea)
  • The Full Text Of S.B. 99 Included Changes That Would Offer Sex Education To Children Beginning In Kindergarten. "Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV." (S.B. 99: Illinois Senate Health And Human Services Committee, Passed, 7-4-0, 3/6/03, Obama Voted Yea)
  • "ABC News' Teddy Davis And Lindsey Ellerson Report: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Told Planned Parenthood ... That Sex Education For Kindergarteners, As Long As It Is 'Age-Appropriate,' Is 'The Right Thing To Do.'" ("Sex Ed for Kindergarteners 'Right Thing to Do,' Says Obama," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, blogs.abcnews.com, Accessed 7/19/07)
  • The Obama Campaign Tells First Read: "You Can Teach A Kid About What's Appropriate And Not Appropriate To Protect Them From Predators Out There." ("Obama And Sex Ed For Kids," NBC News' "First Read," firstread.msnbc.msn.com, Accessed 7/19/07)
  • The Obama Campaign Issues Document Citing Sex-Education Curriculum For Kindergarteners From The SIECUS And Oregon Department Of Education. "In addition, he issued a document showing that the Oregon Department of Education has guidelines for sex education for children in grades K-3 (which includes understanding the difference between a good touch and a bad touch), and that the Sexuality Information And Education Council of the United States [SIECUS] has curriculum for those in kindergarten." ("Obama And Sex Ed For Kids," NBC News' "First Read," firstread.msnbc.msn.com, Accessed 7/19/07)
  • The Full Text Of S.B. 99 Included Changes That Would Offer Sex Education To Children Beginning In Kindergarten. "Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV." (S.B. 99: Illinois Senate Health And Human Services Committee, Passed, 7-4-0, 3/6/03, Obama Voted Yea)

 

My problem is with CNN

Submitted by kmorrison on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 13:07.

Frankly my issue is more about CNN not doing their homework, than the bill itself.  I wish I had a clip of their show last night because they were talking about the responsibility of the media to expose these lies, when they clearly had no idea what they were talking about.  The bill is what it is, but CNN parrotted the Obama campaign's rhetoric.  I don't blame the Obama campaign for that; I blame CNN.  If they still want to claim objectivity then they need to do some research.

 

 

CNN Tries to Put "Lipstick on a Pig"

Submitted by Tiger4Truth on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 14:00.

"Instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections" means what it means. You'd think CNN would have learned by now that you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

Most reasonable people, after

Submitted by jay on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 14:12.

Most reasonable people, after reading that bill, can clearly see that Obama did not want kindergartners learning how to put on condoms. That's the way McCain made the slimy ad out to be. McCain needs to ramp down his attacks and start explaining why he supported Bush 90% of the time. That's what I think people really need to understand. McCain needs to prove he's not an extension of Bush. Run ads where he is disagreeing with Bush. List all the stupid conservative initiatives he wanted no part of. Remind people about his support for amnesty, limiting global warming, stopping torture, and campaign finance reform.

 

What is he waiting for?

The bill was intended to implement SEICUS sex ed standards

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 23:04.

Obama has said that, and Obama supports that. The term for that curriculum is 'comprehensive sex ed'. The McCain ad is accurate and it never mentioned condoms.

Obama's support for comprehensive sex ed for K-12 and his opposition to school choice and his failure to accomplish anything in his $100 million education grant with the terrorist radical Bill Ayers, these are all legitimate points on where Obama stands on education.

Bush is not on the ballot, and its stupid for either McCain or Obama to mention Bush at all.

 

Challenge CNN

Submitted by kmorrison on Wed, 09/17/2008 - 15:41.

Frankly, don't blame people if they don't like the ad.  There is a legitiment point to the ad, but certainly understand if people don't like the way issue was broached or phrased.

However for CNN to call it a lie, than act all indignant about the McCain campaign is garbage.  That's not their job, and their credibilty is approaching zero with their over-the-top pro-Obama bias.