To Know Whether John McCain Won the Forum Definitively ~ Read the Body Language

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This started out as a comment to hopefully disagree without being disagreeable with johnson springs on Matt Moon's post Obama's Conversation With Himself, McCain's Conversation With America.  I became so fired up in my response that I started bloviating to the tune of about a thousand-word essay, so I decided to be kind to Matt's readers and simply make it a separate post. 

Johnson springs critiqued Matt's post as good "naive" analysis; poor political analysis.  My understanding of political success is being able to engineer consensus which will produce votes on election day which will, in turn, produce victory for the candidate.  I thought Matt's analysis was spot-on. 

As an amateur student of neuro-linguistic programming and body language, I can say that it's well-documented that this forum was not a draw.  To determine that, I analyzed the body language along with the spoken responses.  The first sign of insecurity was that Obama was conversing with Pastor Warren, whereas McCain, as Matt pointed out, was conversing with us.  The second sign of Barack Obama going south, literally, was when he frequently cast his gaze downward.  In body language parlance, Gaze-down may convey a defeated attitude. It may also reflect guilt, shame, or submissiveness, as when distorting the truth or telling a lie.   No wonder George Clooney keeps texting and calling Obama weekly with "public speaking tips" (as opposed to foreign policy advice).  In addition to practicing what can be interpreted by the trained eye as deception, I've often said that if Obama were giving at speech at Toastmaster's and were charged $5 for every "um" and "uh", the tip jar would profit greatly. 

When I hear people refer to him as an "academic" or "professorial", all I can think of is that if he were my professor, I'd drop his class in Week One. In my humble opinion, the man is somewhat boring, indecisive and poorly informed.  Take his statement that "abortions have not gone down at all in the past 8 years", for example.  Apparently he's not an avid reader of U.S. News and World Report, which informed us in January of this year that Abortion Rate Falls to Its Lowest Level in Decades.  We can add that to his "57 states" misstep along with all of his other gaffes.  Maybe my bar's a little higher than some, but I do require my professors to be more knowledgeable than I am, not less so.

My theory is that anyone who believes this forum was a draw was either  (a) multitasking by watching both Michael Phelps kick ass for his impossibly incredible lucky #8 gold medal (AMERICA - HELL YEAH!!), (b) an Obama fan, (c) an anti-McCain conservative, (d) simply not observing or comprehending fully the signs, signals and responses of the audience objectively, or possibly any combination or all of the above. 

The number of times the audience applauded, and the enthusiasm of the applause were visibly higher for McCain throughout his interview, and undeniably moreso in the areas of  "At what point do babies have human rights?", "Does evil exist and what should we do about it?", and "What was the most difficult decision you ever made in your life and what was your process?".  The major significator of the entire evening was at the completion of each candidate's interview.  When Obama completed his round, several people stood up around the church, and Pastor Warren invited everyone to stand and thank Senator Obama for his participation.  It appeared to me as though he didn't want half the church standing and the other half still in their seats.  It took from 10-30 seconds for everyone to stand respectfully on behalf of Senator Obama.  On the other hand, when John McCain completed his round, the entire audience jumped to their feet immediately to roaring applause, even before Rick Warren invited them to do so.  That's decisive.  That's definitive.  That's a measurement of a win, not a draw.  Please feel free to go back and review it again and fact-check me. 

If you're a conservative or evangelical who is still on the fence after watching McCain's stellar performance and the amazing wealth of enthusiasm which was generated with an audience that could have gone either way last night, and you still want to stay home or write in Ronald Reagan's name, then I'd like you to closely examine whether you've become caught up in a political ideological purity test that is impossible for anyone to pass except perhaps the great man Reagan himself, and even that is up for grabs, given all the requirements he'd have to live up to today. 

If you're either an ongoing or a newly minted McCain supporter, you'll be as happy as the day is long with McCain's outstanding performance last night and its embrace by the Saddleback Church, and I'd like to encourage you to do exactly as Matt recommended, and as I just did, which is to go to johnmccain.com and contribute. 

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McCain performance changed hearts and minds.

This was definately a win for McCain. I can testify to the literal turn around of attitudes that occured, over on the Huck's Army forums as we had a live discussion going on during the presentation.

We are a diverse body.. many of us, like Mike himself were prepared to support  McCain unconditionally for basically the bottom line reason that BO is a non starter.

But many, especially given the 'straddle the fence' pro- choice veep comments of the last week were seriously starting to backpeddal in confusion...not sure if McCain would really represent our causes faithfully, or would just try to win to win by any means neccessary.

His performance at this forum secured and confirmed countless votes, and several immidiate donations. trust me.. McCain WON this.

Here are some sample reactions.

I am surprised at how personally warm I feel towards McCain with the answers he is giving and emotion he is showing. I didn't think I would be....

McCain has always come across as caring very deeply about America whenever I've watched him speak.

While I've not made a decision regarding November, listening to Obama tonight made me so keenly aware that he is NOT READY at all. He couldn't even answer Rick Warren! How is he going to talk with world leaders!!???
 

I like that he used the word "rights of the unborn", McCain knows his audience.

I have been impressed with Sen. McCain's answers. Let's all keep on praying that he will choose a consistent pro-life VP and they will campaign on the issues openly.
 
I have to say, I'm impressed with McCain tonight. Wow. :D If he picks a prolife VP, I'm sold.
 
 
And the one I thought pretty much summarized how we're all feeling:
 
I'm so grateful to the Lord right now:

1. That this is the FIRST debate between the two. For this reason, I bet MANY people tuned in, who might not have been interested in the "Christian" debate otherwise. I'm expecting that lots of them came away with altered opinions of both candidates.

2. That Mike Huckabee was right about John McCain's character.

3. That the Lord has provided a candidate that we may, in fact, be able to support with enthusiasm.

4. That He put in on Rick Warren's heart to ask the good, hard questions. I kept hearing people who doubted Warren would do that. I'm so glad he did.

I think that Mike and many others must be right who say that McCain is just very private when it comes to his faith. I'm glad he wasn't so reticent tonight. He may have just lit the fire he needs to win this election.
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Rensen, so great to hear from you again!

I'm especially happy to see how you've weighed in on this.  When it was over last night, I felt a weight of a thousand pounds had lifted because I knew that conservative Christians were going to be with McCain from here on out.   I agree that Tom Ridge would not be an appropriate VP for this election, nor would Rudy Giuliani, as much as I really like him.  Good luck to Mike Huckabee in the Veepstakes, and to Eric Cantor, who's my other secret crush besides Rudy.  It's going to get very exciting here, very soon.  ;-)

He sounds like a teenager

He sounds like a teenager...

I've often said that if Obama were giving at speech at Toastmaster's and were charged $5 for every "um" and "uh", the tip jar would profit greatly.

To me it sounds like someone who hasn't thought through these answers before right that second.  And he's making it up as he goes along.