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Submitted by Lisa on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 12:52
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I have to admire the Palins.

Whatever else you wish to say of them, they live by their beliefs. While many of us like to talk about being pro-life, few of us are ever put into a position where we really have to make a decision on the matter.

Here you have two women, mother and daughter, both choosing to carry babies to term under very difficult circumstances. 

I did not think Palin was the most strategic choice for McCain. I don't think she's terribly experienced in national politics. But if there's one thing you can say for her, her family is clearly one of a moral integrity that is all too rare in our society.

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Good point

Submitted by Zapesochny on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 13:52.

With Palin, McCain won't have trouble getting anyone to believe that he will appoint conservative justices to the federal bench.

Election will be about Life

Submitted by Rensen on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 14:50.

I know not everyone will see this election through a 'spiritual' lens. But I continue to be amazed by the way certain things are falling into place.

I honestly think that this election will become a referendum on Obama's horrific policy on life and abortion. The Palins' choice for life in circumstances traditionally used by demcrats as excuses for an abortion, will stand in stark contrast to Obama's record as a 'babykiller'.

If this is done right.. everything Obama says about creating better lives for Americans will fall on deaf ears, because his attitude the the most helpless of americans is so off base.

I honestly thought Obama

Submitted by Lisa on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:52.

I honestly thought Obama would lose this election on abortion, and now I really think he's toast. On one side we have a guy who supports post-delivery termination on pregnancy and says he doesn't want his daughters "burdened" with a child should they make a mistake, on the other side we have a mother and daughter who chose life even when some would have said abortion would be the easy or even the smart way out.

Good to hear from the Lisa I thought I knew

Submitted by lagomorph on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:09.

as opposed to the one I thought had been abducted by aliens (or KOS diarists).  Aaaauuuggghhh!

Thanks for a very positive end to an otherwise disturbing trend of analyses in other comments.  I'm hoping that Palin's ability to live her convictions will show many voters that she actually exhibits the qualities and traits that Obama only pays lip service to.  She's not a perfect politician any more than McCain is, but in matters of principle she really is the real deal. 

Obama Calls off the dogs

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 15:56.

Here's what Obama himself had to say, perhaps in response to the froth-at-the-mouth Kos diarists who leave no slime unflung to go after Palin:

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits. "This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president. "And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."

 I have to praise Obama for warning his followers to not take the low road. (Not that they won't anyway; I expect plenty of 'trailer trash' type commentary due to this.) I and others are noticing already that Palin's daughter's situation is not much different from Obama's mother.  And so we find Obama himself drawing the parallel, rightly. These things can happen and have been happening for a long time. Palin's daughter should not be a political football.

It would be worth pondering what the right choice is in such situations. Obama’s mother was in that situation 47 years ago. We dont know what and where the Palin child will be in 47 years, but we do know that even an unexpected child can grow up to do unexpected and even amazing things. The Palin's are going to welcome this unexpected child in life and not consider it a 'punishment', and who knows what he or she will grow up to be. This could be a prolife ‘teaching moment’.

 

I don't mean to be crass,

Submitted by Lisa on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:54.

I don't mean to be crass, because I do believe that he honestly believes we should protect the children from scrutiny, but I also thinks he wants this story to disappear because he doesn't like where this is leading in terms of the abortion debate.

Boomerang effect

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 17:56.

Yes he doesnt want it going in the abortion direction, but also:

1. also Obama wants to avoid the whole problem of a negative character campaign that is in the open,  for the simple reason that his own very serious and dangerous personal connections and history comes up, from Rev Wright and his 20 years in a Black Liberation Theology church, to Ayers, to drug use, to real estate deal with Rezko, to marxist political groups supporting him in his early races. He wants us to see his bio in the 10 min spot that airbrushes that aside and makes him mythical Americana.

2. This was his statement for public consumption, but we have this trail of evidence that some higher-up Democrat operatives and 'established' folks pushing various ugly smears,  not just kossacks, maybe even people in the Obama campaign (See Redstate on that).  The attempt to Quayle-ize Palin goes on. Obama doesnt want his fingerprints on it. This is typical 'surrogate attack dogs' with the lead and worst offending attack dogs being the nutroots.

I dont think the left will hold back at all. They either kill the next Thatcher in the crib or not at all, is their thinking. And they might be right.

 

 

 

The dogs don't answer to him

Submitted by Ironman on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 16:19.

Trust me, the elitist yuppie press is going to keep their teeth sunk into this one like a starving American Staffordshire would treat a rib eye.

Here's what a Yale educated Hartford Courant columnist is spewing forth. And this is one of his nicer columms over the past couple of days.

http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_to_wit/2008/09/juneau.html

I'm sure in his world a career woman would have aborted her Down's syndrome baby and made sure her daughter didn;t embarrass her with an inconvenient grandchild. Of course, the alternative reality he seems to endorse is that all pro-life women should be the little women back at the hearth, and not fly on airplanes or allow their teenage girls out of the house. 

Folks, Obama is a means, not an end to the American Left. Frankly, should Obama get elected and display a smidgen of common sense and courtesy I expect the nutroots will turn on him the way they ran Joe Lieberman out of the local Democratic party.

 

Red State Attributing anti-Palin Slander to Obama Campaign

Submitted by lagomorph on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 17:15.

Just in from Red State:

When Hillary Clinton supporters started questioning whether Obama actually was born in the United States, who published the birth certificate?
Daily Kos did. Barack Obama sent it to Daily Kos to get it out there. They have a close relationship, the campaign and website do.

When Barack Obama wanted to reach out to the netroots, where did he go to blog?
At Daily Kos.

What site does Barack Obama have in his RSS reader?
Daily Kos.

Barack Obama himself admits he reads Daily Kos.

We know from Ben Smith at the Politico that Democrats are pushing out the story about Sarah Palin's support for abstinence only education. They were doing it before the announcement and now they are really doing it.

So today Barack Obama says he'd fire people from his staff who are pushing stories about the Palin family children.

Maybe he needs to start looking into his staff.

'nuff said?

 

Unexpected Pregnancies = Unexpected Blessings

Submitted by Dannamay on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 20:20.

Nine years ago, our teenaged daughter was faced with an unplanned pregnancy.  Her boyfriend wanted her to have an abortion, but our family stayed strong and stayed together.  We helped her not only decide not to have an abortion, but we all supported her as she stayed in school and finished her high school education. 

Today, I look at our nearly 9 year old grandson and can't imagine him not being here to make our family complete.  He is a healthly 3rd grader and a real sport's star.  Fetuses are persons.  Abortion is so wrong on every level.  It seems strange to me that the same people who claim that fetuses are not persons are the same ones who argue against capital punishment.  Both are wrong in my book and I think in God's Book, too.  But I can certainly see the difference in taking an innocent life and taking the life of a person who has taken the life of another.

Babies don't ask to be born.  It seems strange to me that we allow a person who has made one bad choice already (to have unprotected sex), to make another worse choice.  It's time we called abortion what it really is --  infanticide.

 

 

Awesome, Danna. I have a son

Submitted by Lisa on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 20:57.

Awesome, Danna.

I have a son that 90% of families would have chosen to abort. Ninety. It's unfathomable to me that they would not want in their household the simple, happy existence that only one of these kinds of children can experience.