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Questions (I feel) the Next Right has to address
Hello all,
I've enjoyed reading many of the articles here, especially from some of the posters, such as Daniel Ruwe and Mytheos Holt. However, I find there are some unexplained inconsistencies. These questions are up in the air for anyone who cares to answer them.
When and where should we limit freedom? Do you think that the US court system is set up as a fair way to try any person, or only American citizens? Why is it necessary to limit freedom in some cases (FISA, anti gay marriage/civil rights legislature) and not others (gun licenses, financial regulations)?
What programs should be cut first in order to reduce spending?
What is an acceptable size for our national defense funding? Where is the point where we would consider it too large?
What should be the military's primary focus in the years to come? Should they change over to a pseudo-police-keeping force, holding and clearing and winning hearts and minds, as is necessary in places like Iraq? Or should they maintain the classic idea of a war-fighting military (ie, bomb and get out of there)?
What should be done about illegal immigration? Should we take a hard anti-illegal immigration stance and promote laws that punish business for hiring undocumented workers, and try to round up illegal immigrants? Or should we try to provide a path to citizenship instead? In the same vein, should we allow more or less legal immigration than we do now?
Finally, should the Right reject elitism, embrace it, or perform some balancing act?
I appreciate any and all answers, and think it'd be great to get people talking about some specifics.


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When and where should we limit freedom? Do you think that the US court system is set up as a fair way to try any person, or only American citizens? Why is it necessary to limit freedom in some cases (FISA, anti gay marriage/civil rights legislature) and not others (gun licenses, financial regulations)?
I am more libertarian than most of my colleagues so I will say that we should be very, very hesitant to limit any citizen's freedom. Noncitizens, however, are a different story. Not that we should be cruel, but that we should recognize that noncitizens aren't entitled to the same protections as the US Constitution and so they are not necessarily owed every legal formality that citizens are owed. Such as, with the issue of trying detainees in American courts. They are not US citizens. They were captured in time of war 'on the battlefield', insofar as one exists in the GWoT. So IMO the conservative solution for handling terrorist detainees is to treat them in accordance with military procedures that we would normally use in times of war, i.e., military tribunals. I don't agree that they should have habeas corpus rights. Does this give us free license to do whatever we want? No.
I personally don't have a big problem with gay marriage.
What programs should be cut first in order to reduce spending?
At the federal level, first: all earmarks must go, period, end of story. Second: I think every program whose goal is most closely associated with being a state/local issue should be cut. This means things like social welfare, education, roads (except for interstate highways), law enforcement (except for enforcement of purely federal laws), etc. States are free to pick up these duties, which are IMO really their responsibilities anyway insofar as government ought to have a role in these areas. Third: I would also cut back on defense spending as a part of a broader reorientation of our military objectives towards narrowly defined strategic goals.
What is an acceptable size for our national defense funding? Where is the point where we would consider it too large?
What should be the military's primary focus in the years to come? Should they change over to a pseudo-police-keeping force, holding and clearing and winning hearts and minds, as is necessary in places like Iraq? Or should they maintain the classic idea of a war-fighting military (ie, bomb and get out of there)?
These two questions are of course closely related. For better or for worse, the US has become the global police force. We can either embrace this role, fight against it, or something in between. As I am more or less an anarchist when it comes to international relations, I think the US should only use its 'police power' when (a) our vital strategic interests, narrowly construed, are threatened; or (b) our principles are so offended that to stand by and do nothing would be a moral crime. Now I personally have a pretty high standard for what constitutes a 'moral crime' on an international scale, primarily because I'm a cynic. So your typical warlord-rampaging-through-villages-in-Nowherestan doesn't cut it in my book. So this leaves a substantial grey area, but as long as we are debating in the zones of this sort of grey area instead of attempting to impose some sort of American-dominated world order, I'm okay with it.
What should be done about illegal immigration? Should we take a hard anti-illegal immigration stance and promote laws that punish business for hiring undocumented workers, and try to round up illegal immigrants? Or should we try to provide a path to citizenship instead? In the same vein, should we allow more or less legal immigration than we do now?
We should absolutely prosecute businesses that hire illegal immigrants. It's already a crime to do so anyway, so to advocate for it is nothing more than advocating for the rule of law. I'm not in favor of "rounding up all the illegals" as some of the zealous Tancredo-ites would like to do. But IMO it's not necessary to send ICE squads into the barrios of East LA; instead, let's simply recognize what it means to be a citizen, and organize our society accordingly. For instance, to be a citizen means that you are fully protected under our laws. If you're not a citizen, you don't have the same level of protection. That doesn't mean you're completely unprotected; it just means that you must necessarily operate under a different set of rules. By definition, these rules aren't as good of a deal as the rules that the citizens get to live by. So we naturally create a stronger and stronger incentive for illegal immigrants to "come out of the shadows" and become citizens. Yes I think we should expand legal immigration, and vastly streamline the process.
Finally, should the Right reject elitism, embrace it, or perform some balancing act?
This seems like a curious question to me. Could you elaborate please?
Thanks for the questions.
This seems like a really good idea.
It seems to be the same people debating each other in the diaries and front page posts. Something like answering these questions would be a good way to see what someones ideological framework is when talking to them.
Chemjeff
Thanks for the responses. I agree with you on many issues, and have some followup questions.
Regarding FISA, do you think it's an effective use of resources? And as far as detainees, what of the idea that the GWoT is a 'global' battlefield? Do you feel that those captured in Afghanistan/Iraq would be valid 'battlefield' prisoners, and those captured in 'peacetime' areas would not be? (ie. was Jose Padilla's detention justified?)
I agree with you on near every count when it comes to military action, and feel we should only be involved if it protects our interests, or if other countries are signed up (so we won't do ALL the heavy lifting).
I would like to see increased legal immigration, but I'm not sure how we'd go about streamlining the process. Any ideas?
Finally, regarding elitism, I should've explained it more as 'anti-urban' appeals. Many Republicans praise 'small town values', hunting and fishing, and other rural activities, while decrying "cosmo sipping liberals" in their "ivory towers" and whatnot. I don't think that is a winning formula for the Right, since more and more people will be urbanized due to population growth. (Though the Right Wing has been pretty good at hiding the fact that people like Limbaugh, O' Reilly, etc etc probably live in those same fancy towers.)
The Iatrogenic Immigration Problem
The immigration system is broken and it's broken in a spectacularly predictable way.
By making it tougher to immigrate legally, the result is more illegal immigration.
10 years ago, my wife immigrated to this country on a fiancee visa. It was one of the most massive pains in the butt we ever had to go through together. The paperwork was mind-boggling, we had no idea what forms we needed, what to do, who to call, where to get help... I eventually ended up calling my congressman's office and dealing with his INS liason who gave me invaluable help.
I am a college-educated English-speaker. My wife is a college-educated English-speaker (from *CANADA*).
We had *NO* idea how to go about through the whole immigration mess and we needed Congressional Help to get through it. This was *BEFORE* 9/11. I can't imagine what it would be like today for us to go through that stuff.
When folks start yelling about illegal immigration, the general response is for the government to Do Something and pretty much all they can do is require more forms, more background checks, more proof of education, etc... which results in the smarter immigrants saying "you know what, maybe (my country) isn't so bad after all" or "maybe we should give (other country) another look"... meanwhile, the folks who only have to jump a fence to get here see that there's *ANOTHER* form those other saps have to fill out and they snicker, shake their heads, and jump a fence. Additionally, those who pretty much only have to jump a fence tend to share a non-English language... and they speak it with themselves and their kids when they get here.
Folks see signs in English and Spanish and some of the more resentful ones write angry letters to their congressmen about how we need English as a National Language and something needs to Be Done about this immigration problem... and, of course, the only tool the government has is to add another form... which results in making it tougher for people who need to do more than jump a fence to get here to get here.
Which means that their language isn't added to our cultural experience, which means that immigrants pretty much speak only one language rather than speaking any of 30.
And so people write letters to the government demanding that something Be Done. And so the government adds another form...
Significantly liberalized (like, Ellis Island liberalized) immigration law would result in the industrious from other countries coming here, from the PhD to the unskilled laborer. There would be 30+ languages coming into the country and English would be the default language for all of them... not as a matter of law, but of convenience.
As it is, smart people look at the pain in the butt that emmigration to the US entails and they look somewhere else or stay put. Meanwhile the folks who only need to hop a fence to get here are, you guessed it, only hopping a fence to get here.
But maybe calling for the government to Do Something will work this time.
I got my wife a green card
And I didn't even bother trying to do it myself. I just paid a lawyer 2.5K to handle it. Still a hassle to collect everything, but at least I didn't have to handle all the forms.