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Is Saul Anuzis Acceptable as RNC Chair?

Yes
38% (280 votes)
No
62% (456 votes)
Total votes: 736

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Spectacular failure as Michigan GOP chair

Submitted by RedMango on Thu, 12/25/2008 - 16:02.

He presided one of the worst state GOP party in the country failing to take advantage of the mistakes of a dumb governor (Granholm) into political success for the party.  The entire decade has been lost by the MI GOP and in turn, it was a lost decade for the state of Michigan.  We really REALLY should stop rewarding failure in the Republican Party.  And yes, I am making an oblique reference to Chimpy McBushHitler. 

Lots of irony here

Submitted by John_Galt on Thu, 12/25/2008 - 20:17.

According to Anuzis he “wants the party to invest in the latest technology to reach young voters and to expand the GOP message to more voters” and says “the party needs to do a better job of using the latest technology to raise money.”

So a year and a half after Anuzis demanded Ron Paul be kicked out of the debates, he says the GOP needs to do a better job reaching young voters and using the “latest technology” (i.e. the internet) to raise money.

Irony anyone?

I was asked to vote here

Submitted by MichiganDelegate on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 16:12.

I was asked to vote here by Saul. I guess that makes sense a state chair asking his delegates to help him out. I'm torn here however.

I'm reading the comments here and frankly what "RedMango" faults Saul for is what made him effective as a state chair. Michigan is a democratic state, with Republican pockets. Keeping the troops focused, pushing the party issues, is what Saul did, and what Saul was good at. He was an effective state party chair. Michigan is a loser for the Republicans anyway you cut it, so Saul did his best to hold ground. There is a reason McCain didn't campaign here.

That much being said, I'm not sure a good party chair is what we need, now, in national leadership. Values and vision should matter here, not keeping the troops in line. I'm no Ron Paul supporter, but what "John Galt" said was accurate, Saul did try to get Mr. Paul banned from the debate. The state RNC office literally had the switchboard shut down due to the negative feedback that resulted from the foopah. This alienated a significant number of young people against the Michigan state party. We, as a party, should tolerate dissent within our ranks; it only makes us stronger.

The Republicans at the National level have their backs against the wall. We are highly outnumbered by the Dems. We need vision and people willing to take a risk, not people that follow the party line. I don't have an answer here as to who this person might be, but the RNC needs a "General Lee" to lead it, not a McClellan. Organization only means so much, we have to take bold chances if we ever expect to take the moral highground in america again.

Anuzis Is The Problem

Submitted by ReaganMan on Sun, 12/28/2008 - 01:49.

It's very sweet that you should vote for your chair at his request but open your eyes.  Saul and his friendly neocons are what have destroyed our party.  I've been a long time conservative Republican activist.  What your chair did and what weak kneed clones like him around the county did during this cycle was despicable.

States like New Hampshire, Nevada, Texas, and Minnesota caved in to the McCain bots and we have hell to pay now.  It started with a lack of leadership at the top of the State Parties.  They should have told the RNC and McCain campaign to go to hell. Why was it that the McCain campaign was out of money in December of 2007 and broke his own stupid McCain-Feingold law. Suddenly he was back. Propped up by brain dead chairs like yours. Follow the money. When it came in the state chairs threw the grass roots under the bus and did whatever the neocons like Rove and the McCain folks wanted.

It took me decades of working for the party to have the honor of representing my state at the GOP National Convention in St Paul.  Things I saw there sickened me.  McCain campaign henchmen almost out numbered delegates on the floor (Against any know Robert’s Rules).  They literally motioned to the crowd when to cheer like human applause signs.  I spoke to many Ron Paul delegates and for my money they were the youngest and brightest of the bunch.  They were abused buy knot heads like your chair all along the process and yet they were the one’s who acted like real freedom loving Americans.  They were even disrespected at the convention and it pissed me off.

I’m an old hockey player.  No great talent; I was the enforcer who stepped up when our smaller guys were getting abused.  I’m in my 60’s now so long past being a threat to anybody, but the habits remain.  At one point I saw a group of burly McCain bots pushing around the Ron Paul delegates who were getting a picture taken together outside the hall.  The Paul people were elected Delegates and Alternates, not demonstrating, but getting a picture taken for God’s sakes and the McCain campaign saw it as their duty to mess with them.  I blew my cork and got in the face to the biggest McCain bot I could find.  I said. “What the hell are you doing? These people are having a picture taken. Why are you doing this?”   He half passed me off as he spoke into his mouth piece and listened to directions on his ear piece.  His answer, “We’ve got an election to win!”  

Well great.  How did that work out for us?  Leadership like your chair allowed this kind of crap to go on at the state level country wide.  Promote Saul or people like him?  No!!!  Kick their asses out!  It's people like the Ron Paul supporters who will bring this party back not hacks like Anuzis.

 

 

 

Ron Paul is the last thing we need

Submitted by GabrielWest on Tue, 12/30/2008 - 10:43.

He's politically toxic- a member of the lunatic vulture fringe. We don't need him, nor his internet troll supporters undermining the credibility of the Republican party as a group of serious people.

 

Speak for yourself

Submitted by MichiganDelegate on Tue, 12/30/2008 - 23:42.

GabrielWest:

You're missing the point here completely. The shear fact that you know what you seem to know (and I question the creditability of that link) is a reflection of a free and open society. Mr. Anuzis would ban anyone he doesn't agree with, it just as easily could have been Tom Tancredo, whose views on immigration where just as far out there, at least to the McCain/Bush side of the party.

I get it, you don't like Ron Paul. That's OK, and clearly you should be voting for Anuzis but it is thinking like yours that is and has destroyed the party. We lost in 2006 and we lost in 2008, and Ron Paul had nothing to do with that.

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. It is elitist views like your own that have undermined the Republican party.

Ron Paul Supporters

Submitted by rcovington on Wed, 12/31/2008 - 13:28.

May not have casued our loss, but they did nothing to help the GOP and that is their intent going forawrd.  I also suspect some of you are agitators for other interests masking as Ron Paul supporters.

Is Saul Qualified?

Submitted by rcovington on Wed, 12/31/2008 - 13:25.

Judging by the vitriol of the Ron Paul supporters, they must be very afraid of Saul.  That qualifies him in my eyes.

Paultards not welcome

Submitted by GOP_Man on Thu, 01/01/2009 - 02:43.

rcovington:

You are spot on here sir. We need more people like Saul who have the backbone to say enough is enough and keep the undesirable element out of the party. These Paul supporters are traitors to this country and should be sent to Cuba, where they belong.

My vote is for Saul and all patriots who support the values of this country should be voting for him.

I've been a republican supporter since I was 10

Submitted by Chance_Haywood on Thu, 01/01/2009 - 09:06.

That means I was hooked in 1980. At the time it had little to do with any real understanding of the ideology of the party and more to do with my admiration of my grandfather and his support of Ronald Reagan. As I grew older and a tad better educated there were principles in the party that were like a homing beacon. I've never once regretted being a republican.

Until now.

My political ideology was changed dramatically by a book I read during the college years entitled Lost Rights. Since then I've been more supportive of libertarians in the party. I've always been willing to support our party's general election candidates. Not blindly mind you. I didn't support Dole. I wasn't helpful during Bush's relection. But I've never trashed someone in my own party for supporting a different view point or candidate. Which is what bothers me so much about the Paul bashing. As crazy as his supporters might be the guy has a spotless record when it comes to protecting the principles we hold most dear not only in the party but the country.

Non-interventionalism was one of the principles that help America thrive and become the world economic power she bacame. I don't know Anuzis. I do know I can not support someone who would be so willing to ban an elected official from a debate because they don't share like minded ideology on every subject. If people can't have different viewpoints then why even have a debate?

Well said

Submitted by Paleo-Skeptic on Mon, 01/05/2009 - 03:23.

That's the biggest reason behind the necessity of the popularization of existing media: the Right needs to learn how to have polite and ordered debate.  All the politeness in the world can't make up for a lack of order; and all the order there is could never make up for blatant rudeness.

It's an uphill battle though.  I think too many Republicans are stuck in high gear with this defending against the Great Other.  They tend toward heated rhetoric because they have felt themselves in a defensive position for too long.  I think there's an adjustment there that takes place, where people learn to disagree without feeling threatened.

Every soldier is issued a gun.  That's what you use on your enemies.  A fist-fight in the barracks should never involve guns.  Every good soldier knows that.

I hate to see people talking down Ron Paul.  I think a part of that is the neo-cons falling out of favor, and the so-cons coming to terms with the idea that they will have to work with the libertarians now. 

If you like bailouts.

Submitted by iuwolf on Mon, 01/05/2009 - 01:06.

Saul is for the auto bailout, that earns him a "no" vote with me 

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