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Change Requires Accountability
When the #AllBarackChannel realizes something is going wrong, it's probably time to pay attention:
Obama's spending proposals and a record-breaking national debt inherited from President Bush that is projected to grow could be Obama's political Achilles heels, and one reason he often underlines fiscal prudence as a top priority.
The percentage of people in a Pew Research Center poll out today who expressed approval for the way Obama is handling the economy slipped to 52 percent from 60 percent in April.
Recent NBC/Wall Street Journal and CBS/New York Times polls showed that nearly six in 10 people said the Obama administration is not doing enough to reduce the deficit, and the Pew poll showed about the same percentage disapprove of the government spending billions to keep General Motors and Chrysler in business.
"They worry that government is going to be too involved in the economy and the everyday lives of the American people," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center.
Obama faces this conundrum: while the country voted resoundingly for a political change from George W. Bush, Obama continues to preside over a country that is fundamentally conservative not simply in the center-right political sense, but in its skepticism of big structural changes to the basic nature of the economy.
When hopeandchange is inextricably tied to disturbing and unsettling changes like auto nationalization and mountains of new debt, the whole "change" mantra tends to lose its luster.
The fear right now is not that the government will do too little, but that it will do too much. Popular resistance to any action to support the domestic auto industry runs counter to the natural political instinct to "do something" to help the little guy keep his job. The American people are way out ahead of Obama and the Republicans because of a basic sense that nationalizing industry is just not something we do here in America, not even temporarily. This is that basic don't-rock-the-boat mentality speaking, I think.
Furthermore, what if health care is effectively tied in to this? The proposition that the President is going to do for health care what he's doing for the auto industry seems pretty toxic, and has a kernel of plausibility, in that new government-owned entitites are springing up all over the place competing in the private market. It's not a huge narrative leap to suggest that neither the government standing behind your new muffler nor it competing in the health insurance market are particularly well-advised ideas.
It is here that I think the seeds of a Republican political recovery in 2010 are born. Republicans don't need to convince the electorate that Obama is the second coming of Karl Marx. They need merely to establish that if one has any doubt that the stimulus, or Government Motors, or health care will work out exactly as planned, the only prudent thing is to vote Republican as a hedge. There has been sweeping economic change these last few months, some of it created by the previous Administration, and little of it good. Sorting out the mess will require a huge national effort, not just one party. And times of sweeping change require accountability, not its complete absence.
- Patrick Ruffini's blog
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ONLY if the Republicans are offering a credible alternative
This makes no sense if the voter is in the position of having a small amount of doubt about the Democratic plans but HUGE doubts about the Republican plans. I'm pretty sure that most voters will go into the 2010 elections with fresh memories of what a hash the Repbulicans made of our country from 2001 to 2008.
There is also another scenario - the voter has a small amount of doubt about the Democratic plans but is not aware of the Republicans having any plans at all. From Roll Call, June 17:
You can't build up your party by simply trying to tear down the President.
Build up your party
And you can't build up your party by tearing down the opposing party, as Frank Rich did in the New York Times... http://tinyurl.com/nuqga9
I wonder how long it will take
fo America to realize that these are not "temporary" takeovers of the auto industry? GM and Chrysler are now wards of the state, line items that will be a part of the budget process for years and years to come (like Amtrack).
The realities of the Obama economic model will become clear before the 2010 elections. The debt is in place and unsustainable. The projections used were heavily flawed and already proving to be way off (stimulous spending would insure unemployment would stay under 9%?). The debt load is staggering and still building.
By 2010 the Bush years will fondly be remembered as "the good old days" . . .
Lets have a wager.
Let's have a wager. According to Pollster.com, on Election Day, 2008, roughly 75% of Americans polled said that America was on the wrong track. Today it is 48%.
You pick a date in 2010 - or one late in 2009, if you are so inclined. If on that date the Pollster.com average "wrong track" percentage has climbed back above 50%, I will go away and never post on this site again.
If you accept this wager, let me know what you are willing to offer as your penalty if you lose.
Not there yet.
First, I don't think the country is 'fundamentally' conservative anymore. Maybe it's tied, but moving towards liberal.
Second, the bailouts. All of the drum beating about 'takeovers' and 'socialist' will go very bad for Reps IF the bailout companies start paying back the money as the banks are starting to. As for GM, they're selling off units and will have more cash on hand and less bad product lines. It's unlikely they will be whoever they were at one point, but if a smaller GM survives and starts making a profit, then again, bad news for Reps. Obama will take credit for saving US car industry.
The big gamble is on health care. It's such a big undertaking . . . no matter who or what it's scary. When that much money is involved, someone is going to win and lose. And I'm not predicting who . . . I just know moving these large systems is very complex with uninteded consequences. But there are loser and winners now.
I bet 2010 won't be so bad for Reps because the prez is in a dip, but I believe 2012 is still on track to be a loser. The economy will have turned around or will at least look that way on the surface. Reps still don't have much to offer other than sour grapes: national review et. al. makes Al Jazeera look fair and balance.
+1 to CR
I don't know why Patrick thinks: "Obama continues to preside over a country that is fundamentally conservative not simply in the center-right political sense, but in its skepticism of big structural changes to the basic nature of the economy."
I am not seeing this and sometimes other people mention it too: American is "center-right"? I was wondering what it was based upon. Does anyone have any statistics or data to back this up? I think the recent election and various recent changes (gay marriage in 5 or 6 states) shows a movement towards more 'leftism' than 'rightism'.
And please forgive me if don't equal "financial conservatism" with the GOP or the 'right'...they aren't any more related than fire and water. 8 years of Bush with 8 years of broad GOP support for that financial irresponsibility confirms that.
-Pain
If Republicans Do Not Have...
...a viable and believable plan to reverse/undo the things Obama is doing then they will lose in 2010. Definition of "lose" here means that they will not regain control of either the House, Senate or Both. Additionally, they'll need a common sense/workable plan to rebuild the economy and add millions of high paying private sector jobs (for U.S. citizens) taking the unemployment number back down to the 5-7% range. And this plan must contain specifics.
Certainly they won't be able to accomplish this simply by winning the House or Senate in 2010. But unless they have a great plan in place and are an ultra-vocal advocate for US workers/jobs (private sector jobs) then they should forget 2010. And without some progress in 2010, then 2012 will be that much less attainable.
No Patrick, the "minor avalanche" of negative reaction towards Obama's disastrous policies is not enough. The GOP doesn't want to bet the farm on a pair of one-eyed jacks. You see, the GOP is using this mild swell of negative reaction towards Obama as a means of taking the attention off of their own dysfunctional house, which they've never put in order since 11/7/06 and 11/4/08. An excuse to continue to not have to deal with its own severe problems. And voters will continue to punish them for this unrespectable behavior. Darvin Dowdy
Ruffini is Shakin the Pom-poms again
..cheerleading for a team of losers. At the same time he highlights cherry-picked polls,he neglects to mention the GOP is in the same polls now nationally LESS popular than Dick Cheney.
Who is going to give Americans confidence in the GOP?
Palin-Gingrich? Romney-Huckabee?
Sooooo predictable!
The new GOP talking point is now "Government Motors." This all so common bumpter-sticker approach to political discourse (whose target is the low-information base) is insulting to rational beings.
OK, what would the GOP have done to address GM's problem of survival? Let it go under, resulting in the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs across the country? If, by criticizing Obama's action, you are really suggesting that GM deserved to be liquidated, why don't you just say that? I'm sure that position would gain overwhelming support in the industrial Midwest.
So the country is now essentially conservative or center right? Let's try to square that with the reality of the GOP's PLUNGING APPROVAL RATING among Americans in general. If fewer Americans are now calling themselves "Repbulicans," would that not suggest that the party is being abandoned by more and more people period? And just who might these people be? The only credible answer would be Republicans themselves and Independents, correct? Those tending to be conservative and those in the middle? So how could this shift result in a country that is politically right of center when the Right is losing support in record numbers? Doesn't make sense, does it? If you think it does, please explain that to me.
While I can understand the
While I can understand the republicans fear of central planning and governing, they never have an answer to devastating results. The closing down of GM would close down an immediate 300 plants, and would ruin local communities who are already devastated with "free trade".
If republicans complain about "government motors", then they should find a way of not making companies too big to fail. This is one of many faults of a free market system and ideology. Their only answer is that everyone has to suffer for those Gordon Gekkos on Wall Street.
In the real world...
...as you'll find out someday, you are not entitled to any guarantees. Success can't be legislated.
GM lost a golden opportunity when they opted not to declare bankruptcy. And they worsened their plight when, whimpering, they extended their hands out to the federal gov't for help.
No person or organization is too big or small to fail. Or succeed, for that matter. Get real. DD
Too lazy to think.
I just don't get it. The Obama administration has come to the aid of GM, not because it wants to be in the auto business, but because it wanted to avert an economic disaster. Why do you think it was a bad decision to help an important component of American industry given the circumstances at the time? Answering with clichés ("No person or organization is too big or small to fail") simply demonstrates that you have no real alternative to offer.
undoctored: people, companies & org's....
...are products of their own good or bad decisions. Here's a link for one of my favorite "small time/big mind" bloggers over at Townhall, BrianR. ( LINK ) Hope you'll check it out. There have been many, many massive corporations that have failed in the past. Its all part of the free market repairing itself. People adjust and survive. And they do so much more efficiently by letting the free market heal itself.
When gov't intervenes and begins to nationalize banking and industry, everyone is reduced to the lowest common denominator. All become poor. Can you deny that is what Barrack is doing? He's made no attempts to hide his hard-left, socialist agenda. He cares nothing for capitalism and little for our Constitution. He wants to tear down and rebuild a nation that is governed by world bodies. This is the lefts ambitious agenda and he is purposely steering our nation in that direction. He's a pure Transnational Progressive ( link2 ). Certainly you see that? DD
You are basically right in
You are basically right in the long run. My anger is that we have done nothing to prepare for a crisis in this country. Even the republicans went with socialism and government interference. The housing industry for example, and Alan Greenspan of all people. And Bush with the home ownership society. We had a president for 8 years that said "free trade" was good and we watched our jobs wither away. So we get a double whammy when a company fails and the country has not prepared us for globalization.
Again as I have said before (in which we have not done), you have to invest in your country, in your people, and in the future.
You can talk of failure and you are right, but you always have something to replace it. And this is where republicans fail. Republicans only sit behind an ideology and does nothing else. Other countries have subsidized industry and have educated its workforce to deal with globalization. If GM fails and if you have factories closing then come up with an answer. There are no new jobs to go to. We have cities and states going broke. And this was happening under Bush who said all was good. We cannot compete with third world countries. But hey, we can borrow for tax cuts and we can borrow for war and not worry about the future. We saw the "guns and butter" economics for 8 years and it failed. Bush was another LBJ in that respect. So here we are with industries, cities, and states in ruin. Trickle down did not trickle down.
I agree that Republicans...
...are hiding behind their ideology. Well put. And holding up Milton Friedman as an idol to be worshiped. Unrestrained, wide-open free trade is good within the confines of our own borders where we have "our" courts, laws, rules and customs to temper it and keep it sane. But when it comes to cross-border/international trade, much more care should have been given to "protect" our economy. Yes, protect! Its insane and reckless to think that we should not protect our own economy. We don't have the protections internationally that we have internally. That, IMHO, is where the conservatives have gone astray. It ought to be clear now that some of our so-called trading partners, have shrewdly, figured out ways to siphon off our wealth. And we, in the name of wide open free-trade, have sat back and allowed that to happen.
In that sense, we agree, but I do believe that GM should have declared bankruptcy and moved their operation south to right-to-work states, hence reducing their operating costs. Lets remember that it was weak GM management and the UAW that brought this company down. I can't agree to keeping a company like this afloat. They destroyed themselves. DD