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Demanding Results from the Stimulus
With the stimulus signed into law, Barack Obama got the dramatic, unprecedented jolt to the economy that he wanted -- the yearly budgetary impact of the stimulus is about 3 times what the 2001 Bush tax cuts were -- and now we'll have a chance to see if it works. Today was the day Barack Obama took ownership of the economy. A President could traditionally expect an 18 to 24 month honeymoon -- but with this dramatic action that honeymoon period shortened to 6 to 12 months. For Obama's stake -- and for liberalism's -- it had better work.
Let's lay down some markers on what success means, and hold the Democrats accountable for meeting them. Start with their own words. Advocates of the stimulus have taken one of two tacks to describe its impact:
- The President's contention that the stimulus will save or create 4 million new jobs
- The fact that the stimulus needed to be be at least $775 billion since this was the projected difference between the economy's actual and potential capacity.
President Obama is on the record stating that employment will be 4 million higher than if we did nothing by the end of 2010, and that economic growth will be about 2.8% higher (over two years, the stimulus represents about 2.8% of GDP) -- if you assume every dollar of stimulus is a dollar of economic growth, as is strongly implied by the second bullet.
What does this mean in terms of actual levels of economic activity?
First, we have to establish some baselines. Last week, Nate Silver posted an insightful chart forecasting the unemployment rate based on postwar recessions. If job growth continues along the average trajectory of the postwar period, unemployment will peak at about 8.1% this summer and begin declining. Most economists would say this is getting off relatively easy. However, if the trajectory continues along the lines predicted by recessions in the modern period marked by the Fed chairmanship of Alan Greenspan, unemployment will top out at 9.6% in June 2010 before beginning a steeper decline.
This is if we "do nothing."
Obama's projected four million jobs saved translates to a projected 2.8% off the unemployment rate by the end of 2010. My reading of the post-1987 chart suggests that unemployment if we do nothing would be at 9.1% in January 2011 and 6.3% post-stimulus. This is the worst case scenario. Looking at the postwar curve, 6.8% unemployment pre-stimulus would be converted into an astonishing 4.0% post-stimulus. This is highly unlikely, but it's the best case scenario.
Split the difference between these scenarios and you get an unemployment rate of 5.15% at the end of 2010. Either way, we should expect an unemployment rate no worse than 6.3% at the appointed date if Obama's economic theory proves correct.

The economic growth targets are a bit more nebulous, but the implicit promise is that the economy will get no worse than it is when the stimulus first kicks in. So we should expect zero economic growth at a minimum over the next two years if what we are promised actually occurs -- and likely more, since even 1-2% percent declines in economic activity are rarely sustained over four quarters or more (Obama has seven economic quarters to make it happen).
- Patrick Ruffini's blog
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I think by now we know...
... that the stimulus package really isn't about stimulus, but rather a long, pent-up wishlist of a Leftie spending spree.
Watch for more "Inane Congressional Expenditures" stories in the months ahead....
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Obama's projected four million jobs saved translates to a projected 2.8% off the unemployment rate by the end of 2010. My reading of the post-1987 chart suggests that unemployment if we do nothing would be at 9.1% in January 2011 and 6.3% post-stimulus. This is the worst case scenario. Looking at the postwar curve, 6.8% unemployment pre-stimulus would be converted into an astonishing 4.0% post-stimulus. This is highly unlikely, but it's the best case scenario. We have to demand some results. Mike from womens winter coats guide.
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Our next issue
will be the massive national debt we will have in a few years. All of these irresponsible spending plans (of course, Bush contributed to this enormously) will put us in severe debt. At a certain point, we will have no choice but to simultaneously raise taxes and cut spending. We will devalue our currency to pay it off, leading to rampant inflation. This could ensure another recession just as we emerge from this current one.
I see that Newt Gingrich has summed this up as "The Bush-Obama Spending Frenzy". That sounds right to me. Republicans will have a hard time establishing a reputation for fiscal responsibility after the last eight years, but we will have to run the risk of looking like hypocrites.
I don't think Obama is being irresponsible at all.
Bush certainly was. But I agree, there will need to be some changes to our fiscal books. Let's hope we can make them in time (and judiciously enough to not start another recession)
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Newt's selective memory
It would be convenient for Newt to start the spending frenzy with Bush. The cold hard facts are that we've had a huge national debt for over sixty years and, when he was Speaker of the House, Newt didn't do a thing to pare down the national debt. Even though now he tries to point to the budget showdown as an example of his fiscal restraint, he knows that the real reason that he took so long to cave was that he was offended that Clinton made him sit at the back of Air Force One on the way to Yitzhak Rabin's funeral.
Bottom line is, Newt, like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, Delay, Frist, etc. has no credibility when it comes to taking down the national debt.
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Bottom line is, Newt, like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, Delay, Frist, etc. has no credibility when it comes to taking down the national debt.
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This so called 'stimulus' was rushed into action, but so dam slow in rolling out the stimulus we expect. I feel like we have been used and abused, the gov't has pushed things through emergency fast fast fast.... this is BS! You can read more about my opinions about kitchen designs for vacation rentals over at my blogs. Also I have a blog about dating.
straighten your markers
If you're putting down markers, let's make sure they're in the right place.
He said "save or create three to four million jobs". You're trying go glue him to the high end. He didn't say create or save "new jobs", because that doesn't make sense. Moreover, this prediction cannot be verified by data because we never will know how many jobs were saves.
$775B is a fraction of the $2T to $3T economists say is the unused potential capacity. That's the reason many economists, including Krugman, say the present stimulus is far too small.
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