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McCain Camp Thinks PA and WI Stronger Than MI. Really?
The McCain withdrawal from Michigan was done ostensibly to redirect resources to more winnable states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. But is Michigan really the weakest of these three states?
Michigan had been the symbolic heartland of McCain's blue state appeal. He had won a surprise victory there in 2000, and despite underperforming against a virtual favorite son in the primaries, HRC had handed him an opportunity on a silver platter with the long drawn out battle over seating Michigan's delegation to the DNC. It was well understood that uncommitted was a vote for Obama in the primary, and uncommitted lost by 15 points.
How did Obama do in next-door Wisconsin? He won it by 18. He lost Pennsylvania by a less-daunting 10.
Even with the polls as they stand today, McCain is doing better in Michigan than he deserves to be. McCain should be losing in Michigan by 11.7% based on its 2004 margin and the swing since '04 in the RCP average. Instead, state-specific factors are keeping McCain to within 7 in the RCP average and 7.5 in FiveThirtyEight's projection.
McCain is currently losing PA by 9.2% in RCP and by 7 in the FiveThirtyEight projection. There, he should be losing by 10.8%. In Wisconsin, RCP has him down by a more promising 5 (due to a poll released 9/17 that had him down 1) but 538 projects a more sobering 9.6%. I tend to think that geography (cities within commuting distance of Chicago), a more progressive Democratic electorate, and same day voter fraud registration should make Wisconsin a McCain-underperform state.
I won't lie. All three states are extremely uphill at the moment. But I could make a case for dropping Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa long before I'd make the case for Michigan.
I have put together a spreadsheet showing where McCain should stand in all swing states given national polling and the 2004 baseline. Michigan is one of the two states where McCain is performing strongest relative to 2004 if you compare the polling averages to the expected outcome. The other is New Hampshire.
And the other states? McCain is outperforming (in most cases, losing by less than he should be) in Nevada (+3.7%), Minnesota (+3.7%), Ohio (3.5%), Pennsylvania (2.7%), Missouri (2.1%), Wisconsin (1.4%), and Florida (0.6%). And he is underperforming in Colorado (-0.7%), New Mexico (-1.0%), Iowa (-3.3%), Virginia (-3.6%), North Carolina (-4.6%), and Indiana (-11.3%).
Interestingly, all of McCain's underperforming states are red states which were thought to have a decent cushion of Republican voters. McCain can't afford to give up on any of them, except possibly Iowa. It's like they're being magnetically drawn to swing state status by giving Obama just enough support to be competitive.
And so are the blue industrial heartland swing regions, who refuse to let their exalted status die hard by giving McCain 3 or 4 extra points, and enabling the Maverick to compete there.
I've made my position on this clear. Regardless of what the national polling says, McCain should target the states he'll need to forge a winning coalition to get to 270. That means aggressively competing in states that could represent Electoral Votes 300 or 310. By any measure, Michigan should be in this grouping, though it probably sits right on the borderline.
Also, Michigan carries more symbolic import than a Wisconsin or Minnesota, which haven't gone Republican since 1984 and 1972 respectively. It is home to "bitter" America and doesn't have much of a progressive streak. The consquences of pulling out could be to demoralize the troops nationally, not just in one state.
- Patrick Ruffini's blog
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Poor Patrick, no more gimmicks to perform
Maybe after McCain is routed in 2008, Patrick will finally admit that internet gimmicks and campaign tactics pale in comparison to real leadership, real ability, and real results.
If Patrick wants to keep a job in what is left of the Republican party, he had better start focusing on the future instead of worrying about polling and campaign tactics today.
What can conservative do to prohibit incomptent fools like campaign from ever getting near elected office again. What can conservatives do to ensure that every member of the Bush Administration never works in either politics or the government again.
And last, what can conservative do to find politicians capable of reading the newspaper and understanding what they have read?
When was the last time you voted for a Republican?
My guess is never.
2006 as a matter for fact
PatricK
In 2006 I voted for a big spending, big government Republicanswho was also so stupid that he probably could not unfold a newspaper let alone understand what he read. I voted to keep the Democrats from gaining control of the Senate. However, that idiot Replbuican, George Allen, like many other Republicans went down to defeat due his own stupidity and has now given the Democrats another seat that the Republicans will probably never get back.
Now Patrick, when was the last time you told a sitting Republican candidate that their policy proposals were bad and that they were making promises that you make the government bigger. when was the last time that you walked away from a Republican because they were stupid. Until Republicans develop zero tolerance for big spending, big government, anti-intellectual social conservative Republicans, the U.S. will continue on its current path of being a one party state dominate by the Democrats. Maybe when people like you realize that real leadership, real ability, and real policies are always worth more than gimmicks and pandering, i will someday be able to vote for a Republican again.
McCain is just holding on.
Where there is no vision, the people perish.
McCain is a liberal Republican who likes to say that he reads the NYT and the WaPo and that he wants to appoint many Democrats in his cabinet. We're stuck with him. As we were with Bush who has abused everything we stand for except supreme court judges. Are we ever going to see a conservative with a vision?
McCain and the Bush 2004 states
If McCain loses any of the Bush 2004 states, it's hard to see how he can win. Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Indiana and Ohio are must-win states. He can affoord to lose Iowa and New Mexico, but not Colorado nor Nevada. I think Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Minnesota are all flipping democratic and probably a waste of resources.
Hopefully, McCain is taking
Hopefully, McCain is taking the gloves off and will soon be showing us a little of that "fight" he keeps telling us he's known for.
Tom Desrosier
http://www.dare2believe.com
Michigan Is Very Winnable For McCain
Bush came within a couple points in 2004, and McCain is a much better fit for the state. Palin on the ticket will also pull in a few more soccer moms in than Bush did.
Also, as politically incorrect as it sounds, if there is one state that I see the Bradley Effect kicking in big time, it's Michigan. To say there's tension there between the suburbs and Detroit is an understatement. The "hip hop" Detroit mayor, and his ties to Obama only throw gasoline on this. I can see a lot of older, normally reliable Democrats splitting their ticket in the voting booth.
McCain may have already thrown Michigan away by making the idiotic pronouncement that he's abandoning the state. Hopefully Palin can talk some sense into him, and still fight for the state.
It appears to me that Palin wants to win,
but I am not really sure if I can say that about McRINO. Too bad, because if we lose this election the country is probably finished. However it is clear that Palin is a leader with a vision. Too bad we can't flip the ticket.
Lineage is better in MI
MN , WI and IA all went for Dukakis in '88 while MI was an 8 point Bush 41 win.
MI was also Gerry Ford's home state. Last GOP win in WI was in '84, and for MN it was '72. We eked out IA last time but ethanol wasn;t an issue then.
One thing I'm sensing is that in many ways Palin is more like McCain '00, ...a very iconoclastic persona, while McCain '08 seems to have sadly regressed back towards the standard GOP mean
Wisconsin is a purple state
My husband drives a delivery truck in Beloit, WI. During the 2004 election - the majority of signs he saw were Kerry/Edwards. He said this year the majority of signs he sees are McCain/Palin. Beloit is on the Wisconsin/Illinois border and Obama campaigned there during the primaries. McCain/Palin never even campaigned anywhere close - although rumor has it they'll be in Kenosha this week sometime. Kerry only won WI by 1%
I agree with Palin about Michigan. McCain should let her and the first dude campaign for him there. There history as union members might help.
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