For Republicans Who Don't Care if Obama Wins

Then the alternate question is what should conservative voters do who believe that Senator McCain is totally unfit to be presdeint.  Senator McCain is incompetent, lazy, has no leaderhsip ability, and has demonstrated to ability to manage.

What the repubicans should do is treat the Repubican convention as a working meeting where they work at fixing the problems instead of treating it a drunken party.  Until the Republicans admit that McCain is a terrible mistake, the rebuilding of any conservative movement cannot begin.

...while it is winning. If McCain wins, his victory will serve to vindicate his own brand of liberalism within the Republican Party. The result of which is the left will villanize McCain simply because he stole the election from them and the right will fight against his agenda where it is in conflict with their own values. The Republican Party will support McCain and fight any effort for change. Their reasoning will be simple: "Why change when we are winning? All we have to do to win elections is to bear left."

"Now, about that cap and trade legislation"...

Whereas if Obama wins, we can start to rebuild the Party from the ground up,  using the Internet as our tool.

ex animo

davidfarrar

WIll the people who own this site ever do anything about people like this "fucking" person? Or will this site just be a variation on DU?

Both demographic groups have out of wedlock birthrates above 50%.  They commit crimes at a much higher rate than whites.  They also believe that the government should backstop every bad personal decision that people have made.  Just because blacks and Hispanics go to church more than whites does not mean that they are conservative.  The churches they go to support massive social welfare spending and more invasive government. 

The best way to describe the politics of blacks and Hispanics is that the government needs to be touch on whites so that there is more government goodies for them.  Senator Obama is promising more government goodies paid for by rich whites. 

Unless the Republicans Party can find a way to give more government goodies while keepingn the votes fo white fiscal conservatives, the idea that the Republicans will ever get the votes of minorities is laughable.

One of the most significant problems that the GOP has is the presupposition that the minority vote is locked up for the dems to begin with. They are not thinking of proactive ways to get into these communities and target the young people, who are not yet tainted, with the 'can do' message of conservatism.

Most of us, even those born in dysfunctional family situations, still have mothers that say "go to school, work hard, be somebody".. that is a conservative message. This is the same in most families regardless of racial background. (Similarly, if your mom is a crackhead, it doesn't much matter what color you are, you're screwed without external intervention)

But along comes an 'enabler,' usual a democrat, most of the time of your own race, (think Al Sharpton) to say, you poor victim, you don't need to work to be somebody. Sit at home and we'll give you a handout, you're entitled.

It's like the drug dealer who will give you 100 dollars to stand guard, vs the minimum wage janitor job and the corner store. Human nature takes the easy way out.

The democrats are winning because they are getting there first with the message. We need a farm team of young ethnic conservatives who are willing to go into the haunts of the Shaptons and Jacksons, and counter their message. For now, that will be more effective than preaching at those communities from a distance.

And we're out there. I'm a teacher, not one student leaves my room without having learned to start thinking like a conservative. I'm not political, but the world view and attiudes I foster in my students are conservative ones.

Another significant door to three legged conservatism for these communities is social conservatism. You get them in church, they are a captive audience. Many of our curches are multiracial and multi ethnic. We should be volunteering with the youth there and instilling conservative values.

The key is getting to them before the hardwiring kicks in. We can't convert the adults, they're addicts already..we have to target the kids. Where is the conservative alternative to BET? Conservatism needs to be mainstreamed into the popular culture. People have to be willing to invest to see a long term return.

And politically, in that most visible of ways, we need to stop being chicken shits and go to the debates sponsored by black universities..visit and speak in those black churches. White conservatives are battling a guilt that they shouldn't be taking on themselves. If you know you're not in the wrong, you have courage to tell the hard truths, and are not shamed into hiding.

This is how it appears.. Either you are racist and don't want our votes (which I doubt) or you are scared, feeling guilty, and as a result keeping from us the very message that could save us.

The democrats aren't scared, they don't feel guilt.. they saw an opening, took it, and now black people are paying the price. Conservatives should have a crusading mentality. If they could realize that by going to battle against that culture of entitlement, they are in effect saving a generation, it would make a world of difference.

The upshot..stop ceding the territory to the dems. reach out..you may be surprised at how many reach back.

Resen,

The 52% for Huckabee was based upon a sample size of nine people.  A change of one person would have given Huckabee only 33% of the black vote.  Also given that Huckabee got 60% of the white vote versus 44% of the black vote, it is not that impressive. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/1998/states/AR/G/exit.poll.html

95% of blacks have voted for Senator Obama.  Even after being the most avid supporters of Clinton in the 1990's, they threw them overboard and voted for Senator Obama.  100% of the Black Congressional Caucus are liberal Democrats.  If a black person wants to go into politics, they become Democrats.  Huckabee could do nothing about that.

As an black man myself. I gotta say, Huckabee did appeal to me. Largely based on the tax issue, but he appealed to me none the less. Rensen has made some good points.

The GOP HAS to stop thinking minorites are lost and start actually focusing on them. They don't need to give out handouts, they need to just acknowledge them and tell them their message. That is the key. Those on the democrat side may not listen now, but you have to keep trying, because not acknowledging them and considering the group lost to the democrats will only handicap the republicans in the long run.

You don't need a message either, you just need to showcase the conservative side. Some may ask, "What would you do for us blacks?", and thats a valid question. What would you do for them? The answer though, doesn't have to be 'handouts'. The answer, would instead be, smaller gov't, have you, along with everyone else, keep more of their paycheck, increased growth. Job creation(allowing private businesses to do such instead of jobs from the gov't), and so forth. The conservative message doesn't need to be changed for minorities, it just needs to be preached toward them. Being a former liberal I would know. 4 years ago, I would have voted Kerry to knock Bush out, During that time, I heard the conservative message and now, I'm here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Schundler