What's Next for Sarah Palin?

I've given my take the latest Palin controversy here and here, and outside of that I'm done. I make it a rule not put too much faith in "unnamed sources" (especially when one of the people rumoured to be an "unnamed source" publicly says it's all a bunch of jive), and if you want to believe things that the Governor of Alaska who trades regularly with Canada doesn't know what NAFTA is...whatever. The question now is what does Sarah Palin do next?

To answer that I look to the great philosopher Keigergard, or maybe it was Glenn Frey, who simply said, "Take it Easy." She's scheduled to speak in February at the big Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington D.C. Until then...I wouldn't do a damn thing. Relax. Welcome your grandchild into the world. Enjoy Christmas. Enjoy the New Year. Get back to being Governor. There's really no need to think aboot 2012...especially when there's still 2010 to worry aboot.

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Then, after a few months rest, and after a speech at CPAC that you know is going to bring the house down, it's all a matter of introducing people to Sarah Palin. I say "introduce" as opposed to "re-introduce" because the woman that America has met over the past two months wasn't Sarah Palin as much as it was John McCain's running mate. The job of the V.P. is to do nothing else but advocate for the Presidential candidate, essentially just throw out chunks of red meat to the crowds and stand behind McCain saying, "Yeah, what he said." Palin has her own narrative yet to tell, and to stand on her own record.

An example of this would be the economy. All this talk aboot how bad the economy is...Sarah Palin was the only one running this year that had any economic background whatsoever. As Governor of Alaska she oversees 20,000+ employees and an operating budget of $11 Billion, which $11 Billion more than the operating budgets Obama, Biden, and McCain ran combined. Warren Buffet, life long Dem and a guy who knows a thing or two aboot making money, is a huge fan of hers from their business dealings. Prior to joining the McCain ticket she was interviewed on the business channels all the time, so while MSNBC was calling her an idiot and a Jesus freak, CNBC was saying what a great pick she was.

There were a lot of serious people who saw something special prior to September 1st. The rest of the country needs to meet that Sarah Palin. Boning up on issues I'm not that concerned aboot. When you have cats like Randy Scheunemann (foreign policy), Larry Kudlow (economic policy), and if he's not planning a run himself, Newt Gingrich (domestic policy) all as supporters, there's nothing that can't be learned. And as for energy policy which she's an expert at herself, I seem to recall a certain President-Elect saying that energy independence was going to be a top priority of his first year in office.

The best part is that the people she has to make the case to, the moderates and independents, stopped paying attention Wednesday morning. The right is in the love. The left will hate her no matter what. The middle she needs to impress has gone back to fantasy football. By the time September of 2012 rolls around, they'll see an entirely different candidate. And who's to say she's even going to run in 2012. She's only forty-four years old. If she finishes a second term as Governor she'll still only be fifty, younger than most people who run for President. There's even the chance of Senator, especially if/when current Senator Ted Stevens is expelled from his seat. The main reason everyone's talking aboot 2012 is because, now that 2008 is over, what else are we going to talk aboot?

Sarah Palin has a bright future a head of her, and while it might not be in the next four years, I can't imagine it not being in national politics. There was something else going out there besides "appealing to the base," and even if you believe that the 20,000+ crowds she was drawing were all die-hard Republicans, anyone who doesn't think she can build off of that simply wasn't paying attention.

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Palin needs to crawl under a rock and not come out

Palin needs to go back to Alaska and never come back.  The college educate white knowledge work voted overwhelmingly against that Idiot Palin.  Keeping her arond the Repulbican party means deciding that the states along both coasts can be written off to the Democratic party forever,

When the Repulbicans need to shed the clouds of incompetence, stupidity, insider dealing, and short sightnesss, then Palin is exactly the wrong thing to do.

Palin

Palin is a rising star and will be a formidable fundraiser for many years. The left is terrified of her. If they truly thought she was an idiot, why are they trying so hard to destroy her? Her value may be as a commentator or cabinet member rather than the top of the ticket, but this is a bright woman with  bright future.

Correction

The Left is annoyed by her, but make no mistake...they want her on the ticket next time around.

I'm not seeing that

Then why don't they simply leave her alone so that she can screw up everything? According to them and you, if you just get out of her way she will implode due to her sheer stupidity. Why are they continuing to pound? After all, she's just a barely educated redneck from Wasilla.

Sounds like she's going on with Greta on Monday. Some well picked interviews and she will quickly become a sympathetic figure.

just like hillary, i guess.

so sympathetic.

Doubtful

Libs don't understand that there is a difference between pointed disagreement on hostile anger. Palin is much more likable than HRC.

nobody likes a stalker

let alone someone who aided and abetted a witchhunt instead of governing.

Yeah

And how did that investigation turn out?

Ahh Alaska

The place that will likely reelect a convicted felon for Senate and an ethically challenged nitwit for the House. It seems that their sense of justice might at least be questionable, don't you.

I for one hope to see some raw intelligence and curiosity in the next leader of the Republican party. The line has been drawn in the sand. The political battles of the 21st century will not be fought fought in the bedroom but at the kitchen tables.

The mistakes that led to this election cycle is that the party attempted to scotch tape together fiscal and social conservatives. Look around, people want and expect a stable economy. Palin will never create confidence on that front.

Um . . .

 . . .yeah . . . I think Palin is the one who took on her own party in that cesspool and was quite successful at defeating the incumbent crooks. She went on to put together a huge natural gas pipeline deal while fighting the oil companies.

But nevermind that, some anonymous (gutless)souce said she went on a shopping spree a Saks and didn't know Africa is a continent.

not anonymous. just doesn't want the stalkers

dataminers aren't hackers.

Thank Anonymous. They hacked the account she was using for government business in under two minutes. Why wasn't she using the Alaskan Gov acct? So that she couldn't be subpoenaed. Just Like bush.

She's worse than bush, because she holds grudges.

But...

The complete halt of governing to impeach a President for a BJ was something all together different, right? 

palin's husband got sent out to stalk her sisters ex-husband

I detest the use of government for absolute stupidity (though I will say creating an entire Dept just to mislead a spy is masterful, i'm not sure it's quite practical).

Bill clinton was clean, and that question was later ruled inadmissable.

According to me?  I'm talking

According to me?  I'm talking about the Left, and I'm not the Left.

 

She probably has a future in Washington

and as a big name within the Republican party, but she does not play well at a national scale for a whole slew of reasons. She does not know how to appeal to her core group of evangelicals and liberal hating low info voters without offending suburban and urban crowds that make up the majority of the U.S. population. The other problem is that as time goes on the GOP continues to leak support as it fails to pick up a significant share of the new voters coming of age, and those who are young (like myself) are really turned off by the "us or them" message she plays so well.

What's so special about Sarah Palin?

Why does it have to be her? Why can't it be someone who got more education than a Bachelor's in Journalism from Idaho? Why can't it be someone who can be an inspirational leader, a symbol of our country? It's like this is a high school election, and a cheerleader's smitten followers claim "she's not as dumb as you think she is", while they believe that her amazing-ness is self-evident. Most people don't like Palin, and an enthusiastic minority is still a minority.

And yes, the Left wants Sarah to run in 2012, because they think that Obama will eat her for breakfast, and based on Obama's performance this election, I'm inclined to agree. I also want her to run, and to run in all her religious right-wing glory, to have all the starstruck conservative pundits run her campaign like they yearned McCain's would be run, so that she would only win Oklahoma, Utah, Alaska, and Wyoming, and so Republicans would realize that their future is with going to the center, not going to the right.

Palin's popularity

Latest Rassmussen pole shows that 69% of REPUBLICANS think Palin helped the ticket. Only 20% say she hurt it. 64% would like to see her as the 2012 nominee. So the fact aren't with you on the idea that she isn't well liked. She will continue to be an Obama like rock star for the next several years.

And no, the left  does not want her to run, they want to drive a stake through her heart. They do not want to face a candidate with an enthusiastic and growing base.

McCain is the guy who went to the center and got hammered. We need a conservative (not hard right) candidate that can clearly articulate positions and take on the left. Palin may or may not be the one, but she is the catalyst the Repubicans need to get back on track.

Palin nomination equal landslide loss

If you think McCain lost in a rout and that the Republicans lost too many Senate and House seats, image what will happen with Palin at the top of the ticket.  She will lose in a 50 state rout and the Republicans would probably end up with less than 100 seats in Congress.

At least find someone who has been a successful parent as defined by the upper middle class suburban whites for the Repulbican nominatin instead of a loser parent who is too stupid to read a newspaper and too stupid to understand her briefing books.

Popularity among whom?

I said "a majority of people"

You said "a majority of Republicans"

Once again, an enthusiastic minority is still a minority and does not get elected. And a "growing" base? The only thing that grew for Palin were her unfavorables as the election went by, especially among women voters. Who is she going to convince besides low-information white voters?

And it certainly doesn't help that zero presidents have gotten elected in the last hundred years by "energizing the base". Obama ran as a moderate, Bush ran on "compassionate conservatism", Clinton ran on "the economy, stupid" and a "bridge to the 21st century", the list goes on.

And go read Kos every once in a while; whenever the topic of Palin comes up, the response alternates between laughter and an incredulous "this woman could have been a heartbeat away?" In fact, the current frontpage article is a "Well, we've all had our fun, but Palin's got the potential to be not a complete joke of a candidate."

Failing that, you could, you know, actually *ask* a liberal what they think of Palin, instead of relying on the conservative echo chamber for information on how the sneaky, malevolent, and crafty liberals think.

We'll have to watch it play out

And there is a huge movement on Kos that is advising not to underestimate Palin.You may want to look beyond the "current front page". And I have asked my liberal freinds. They are not sure what to make of her. They certainly are not discounting her. Do you think only the libs you talk to represent all of their thinking? I'm not seeing consensus among them, apparently you are and I respect that, but don't assume they are all thinking the same way on this issue.

I'm not even saying she can or should be the next candidate. I'm saying she is a big piece of the puzzle as the Republicans regroup.

 

 

 

not really.

If you wanted someone fundie, but not whackjob fundie, you'd choose Huckabee. He at least can sound reasonable -- and give the man props for his talk about Rev. Wright! That's how you seem a moderate regardless of positions.

not that he could ever win the presidency. there is a horse, and there is a rider, and the fundamentalists are not the rider.

By all means, give it a shot

Except when Palin gets less EVs than Dukakis, don't blame ACORN and the media; maybe admit that she was an inferior candidate.

Not that I'm expecting some conservatives to admit when they're wrong. I mean, that'd make us flexible and adaptive, and we don't want that. After all, as our exchange went:

"Liberals want to drive a stake through Palin's heart"

"Actually, they're not that afraid" (reference, reference)

"I'm not seeing consensus among liberals, apparently you are."

Stay classy.

The Libs?

We also need to stop using labels. Its just dumb. There are smart people with all sorts of political positions. To lump a bunch together, pre-judge their ideas, and dismiss them out of hand is a mistake. We will need to work hard to rebuild. Those who look for common ground will succeed. Those who listen to all ideas that are available will succeed. Those who look to set themselves apart will succeed. Those that continue on the path that got us here are simply bailing water from the Titanic.

 

Grow up.  

Hold it right there

I used the term libs as a shortened version of liberals in that sentence. Talking to liberals (libs) was the context of the conversation, and if you bother to read it we were actually discusssing their diferences.

Don't try to bully me with that "label" crap.

And as for your last comment "grow up" . . , why don't you try to read and get a feel for the conversation before making such an idiotic point.

 

the national memory is short

and the national electorate will see things differently after 4 years of Obama.

Did you know that Sarah Palin, besides her regulatory and executive experience in Alaska, had the best libertarian creds of anyone running this year? I, and many others, would like to see the party go back there.

There's so much that the electorate never got to find out about her because before the last word of her concession speech came out of her mouth, Obama campaign and the New York Times (insomuch as they're separate entities) had sent a huge team up to Alaska to dig up dirt on her and discredit her.

Honestly, if some half baked story about book banning was the best they came up with, this is one clean politician.

Don't get me started on Troopergate. You can find the conduct of that investigation in the dictionary under "politically motivated."

Now, for all I know, she is completely discredited and will stay in Alaska for good. But this nation has collective attention deficit disorder and after the Obama Administration blindfolds and spins us around a few times, I think many people will see things differently.

As for liberals' opinion of her, so what? Last time we let the liberals influence how we picked our candidates....

We got John McCain. I, for one, am willing to try something different.

Sarah Palin is getting raped --

--cybernetically, that is. While it may be good advice for Gov. Palin to take a few months off, if she hasn't first established her separate web presence, other "professional" spammers will steal it from her. This is exactly what is happening now even while I write these words.

In short, Gov. Palin has failed herself by not pre-creating at least one web site, or "officially" authorizing a website, that would accept the many thousands of "Thank you" emails her supporters are now sending to fake, spam websites in her name for later sale on the open market to other spammers.

THIS IS A SHAME, A PURE SHAME.

The McCain Campaign has failed her in not providing this sort of web presence for Gov. Palin.

THIS IS A SHAME, A PURE SHAME.

Even the RNC has failed Gov. Palin in not providing such a web presence. As a consequence of these failures, thousands and thousands of her supporters are now being duped into believing their emails are somehow being presented to Gov. Palin, when, in fact, there is no way to present them to her at this time, electronically, as is suggested by these websites and may well end up simply being sold.

THIS IS A SHAME, A PURE SHAME.

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