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The Constant Campaign Is On

Submitted by Rob Willington on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 21:42
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This is amazing. After an enormous campaign, Barack Obama is continuing to campaign. Right now, Barack Obama supporters are door knocking. You would think that four months after one of the most exhausting campaigns in history, that activists would be sick and tired of door knocking and campaigning.  But the Obama crew is not tired.  

Their campaign was about expanding their base and mobilizing voters.  Now, it's about persuading and convincing voters to help implement the President's agenda.  The Obama crew has Pledge and Protect canvasses to execute Obama's policy.

For a long time now, I have been advocating for Republican Town Committee's in Massachusetts to start a door knocking campaign.  To knock on the high propensity R's, and to knock on the Unenrolled's that voted in the 08, 06, and 04 GOP primaries and invite them to the next Republican social event in town.  I recall hearing that Dick Armey transformed TX politics by doing just this, implementing an intense door knocking campaign. 

Is this too hard to ask?  We can't survive with the same old warriors that are discouraged and beat up- we need to expand the pie.  Door knocking is the single most valuable technique to persuade voters and invite activists into the GOP because it's the most personal.  

This effort from Obama is not just about advancing policy now, it's about collecting names, emails, phone numbers, and ID's of voters for 2012 and bringing in future campaign volunteers.

This is very smart.

There is no such thing as "off" season for campaigns.  Right now, there is a tremendous amount of work to do for the 2010 election, and a lot of data can be collected by Republican Town Committees knocking on doors.  I'm not talking about the Presidential election - imagine the impact of a Republican Town Committee knocking on doors now for a State Representative campaign, these seats can be won right now.

Door knocking can be enjoyable, a time when you meet your neighbors, enjoy nature, and your community.  You should try it some time.

The Constant Campaign is on, are we this hungry?

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Please Fix

Submitted by carltonyates on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 08:56.

the typos in this piece.

fixes - was in a rush. 

Submitted by Rob Willington on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 21:26.

fixes - was in a rush.  thanks.

And when you knock on all the

Submitted by In between on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 10:04.

And when you knock on all the doors, what would you like to offer? 

What to say....

Submitted by Rob Willington on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 21:33.

- Invite to the next GOP social event that you are putting on, so their first experience in the Republican Town/County club is not in the basement of the library arguing over the by-laws.  The GOP committees need to be in the friend making business, and need to expand their pool.  Once the new members are at the social event, you get their names, numbers, emails, phone numbers.

- Conduct an informal poll tapping into the headlines of the day - if they respond favorably to the GOP positions, then ask them A) would you like to volunteer for future GOP campaigns and B) would you like a GOP yard sign in the next election?  Then, for the future (could be unknown) candidates the GOP committees have a bigger list of volunteers and visibility locations.

Those are just two quick examples. 

Seems like you know what to

Submitted by In between on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 22:32.

Seems like you know what to do. My problem is that you think quite highly of the GOP.  While I don't want the welfare route of the democrats, I have just seen 8 years of ruination of this country. And in every case, the republicans abandon the middle class. I suppose you don't know what I am talking about, but it has been tax cuts for the rich, middle class jobs going overseas, the neglect of our infrastructure, and failed ideologies. I don't think the GOP will ever get it. I have always heard it as being the party for the rich. And it holds true, just as much as the democrats has been the party for the poor. Now I have voted for Reagan and Bush 43 the first time around and it has only been disappointments. It's like talking to a New Yorker about the problems of the Midwest and they have no idea what you are talking about.  

There is a huge disconnect. It has been both fun and discouraging to see some of the views by the GOP. This site has been a real eye opener. I don't expect handouts, but I do expect good management. But just about all you get is failed ideologies. So sad.

You are so full of s**t!

Submitted by Joe C. on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 07:07.

You have pulled out every stale stereotype of Republicans that gullible mush-for-brains leftist pull out. Party of the rich? Apparently you don't know anything about the leftists and Democrats.

"I have just seen 8 years of ruination of this country."

No you haven't. You just saw an economic decline start after the leftists took over Congress in '07 that culminated in a manufactured crisis in Sept. '08. What you have seen in the last 8 weeks is a display of incompetence in government, disdain for capitalism, business, and entrepreneurs, the greatest middle class wealth destruction, and more debt and spending than in the history of the Republic. That doesn't seem to bother you, though. With the likelihood of more to come, that will be the ruination of this country.

"...tax cuts for the rich, middle class jobs going overseas, the neglect of our infrastructure, and failed ideologies."

How transparent can you get? Tax cuts for everyone as opposed to the welfare Doh!-bama is passing out (that you are supposedly against), overpayed jobs going over seas (since the 70's, BTW), and $286.4B infrastructure bill signed in '05 (not to mention another $120B for Katrina).

As for failed ideology, to which failed ideology do you refer? Would that be democracy? Or perhaps capitalism? Certainly not the resurgence of "progressivism" that most notably spawned such dynamism as the failed 70-year experiment known as the USSR, its satellites, and progeny of Cuba and N. Korea; the legacy of Woodrow Wilson, the first proto-fascist; or FDR whose statism and ponzi scheme of Soc. Sec. led to the programs of Johnson's Great Society that have bankrupted our country and destroyed the Black family and have created a permanent underclass of dependency. Now all those failed ideologies have culminated at this time to what promises to be a potential death knell to our economy led by this Teleprompter-in-Chief.

I don't believe a thing that you say in your comment. As with most of the comments on this site, you are just an ignorant leftists (mostly uionists) masquerading as a "moderate" to help Republicans continue the recent failures brought on by the moderatism you profess. Only you are much worse at it than the others.

" No you haven't. You just

Submitted by In between on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 08:22.

" No you haven't. You just saw an economic decline start after the leftists took over Congress in '07 that culminated in a manufactured crisis in Sept. '08. What you have seen in the last 8 weeks is a display of incompetence in government, disdain for capitalism, business, and entrepreneurs, the greatest middle class wealth destruction, and more debt and spending than in the history of the Republic. That doesn't seem to bother you, though. With the likelihood of more to come, that will be the ruination of this country."

We saw the deficits and debt 5 years ago. Bush borrowed for his tax cuts, creating a false economy. Bush again borrowed for his war. His father had other countries pay for the war. At the same time we have seen the neglect of our infrastructure, 1 trillion dollars go to Iraq, and our jobs going overseas. Now what kind of economic sense does this make? And Bush hid his costs of the war in emergency funding for some 2 years. There was not one veto on spending until the democrats came into power. Bush added to Medicare and wanted social security his way in which would have cost 2 trillion dollars. And then the president said "free trade is good" as we lost the middle class jobs and we see cities and states going broke. And nothing was done. Add to that the financial crisis in which the democrats, republicans, and Alan Greenspan who were involved with the "home ownership society."

"As for failed ideology, to which failed ideology do you refer? Would that be democracy? Or perhaps capitalism? Certainly not the resurgence of "progressivism" that most notably spawned such dynamism as the failed 70-year experiment known as the USSR, its satellites, and progeny of Cuba and N. Korea; the legacy of Woodrow Wilson, the first proto-fascist; or FDR whose statism and ponzi scheme of Soc. Sec. led to the programs of Johnson's Great Society that have bankrupted our country and destroyed the Black family and have created a permanent underclass of dependency. Now all those failed ideologies have culminated at this time to what promises to be a potential death knell to our economy led by this Teleprompter-in-Chief."

The failed ideology is supply side or trickle down economics. The tax cuts went mostly to the rich. It did not trickle down and we lost middle class jobs. And you have more people without healthcare. And we see the deficits and debt. And we saw the deficits under Reagan, only to have Bush 41 raise taxes to fix those deficits. But what Bush 43 did is none other than "guns and butter." LBJ did this with his Great Society and the Vietnam war and you had 20 years of inflation. Bush 43 does the same with tax cuts and his war and you have deficits and debt. 

So after 8 years of tax cuts we are back into a recession. We have free trade and we are losing our middle class jobs, we have deficits and debt, cities and states going broke, the neglect of our infrastructure, we have seen the threat of putting religion in government, the abuse of 4 amendments to the constitution, and 1 trillion dollars left this country for Iraq. We have seen the lies, neoconism, cronyism, arrogance, ignorance, and blunders. We also saw the muzzling of scientists.

"How transparent can you get? Tax cuts for everyone as opposed to the welfare Doh!-bama is passing out (that you are supposedly against), overpayed jobs going over seas (since the 70's, BTW), and $286.4B infrastructure bill signed in '05 (not to mention another $120B for Katrina)."

What good are a few hundred dollars of tax cuts if you lose your job. It is also becoming apparent that free trade is failing parts of our country. It started slow at first, but we see the results now. We cannot compete with 1 dollar an our wages in third world countries, in which they provide no healthcare, pension, social security payments, or have OSHA standards. I view all jobs vulnerable to leaving the country. Therefore, you need to be more forward looking and find ways of creating jobs that will stay in this country. And that is infrastructural spending, energy independence, mandatory vocational training, embryonic stem cell research, science, innovation, and research and development. All this may have to be subsidized by the government as other countries do it and are moving ahead of us. It is the fight for jobs as we live in a globalized economy. 

We are in uncharted territory with the near depression we have, with banking failures, with deficits and debt, with our middle class jobs going overseas. And those lost jobs means less revenue for the cities, the states, and the federal government. We have to move forward and innovate. But in any case, we see how the republican party abandons the middle class as they ignore the problems and people suffer.

You are going to have to have a more activist president to fix our economy and not one that sits back with laissez-faire and tax cuts and thinks that everything is just fine.

And here is the report card on our infrastructure as we are 2.2 trillion dollars behind. 

2009 Report Card for America's Infrastructure

The tax cuts did not create prosperity.

The tax cuts did not sustain economic growth.

The tax cuts (with the lack of cutting spending) created deficits and debt.

............

"Mission accomplished" clueless

"I believe in a strong dollar" as the dollar went lower. Clueless

"We are winning the war on terror" for three years as the war got worse. Clueless

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." Clueless

"free trade" as factories close. Clueless

"America has no problems" at the olympics. Clueless

YouTube - BUSH: AMERICA has NO PROBLEMS

 

 

 

Boy, did I out you or what?

Submitted by Joe C. on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 20:25.

"I don't believe a thing that you say in your comment. As with most of the comments on this site, you are just an ignorant leftists (mostly uionists) masquerading as a "moderate" to help Republicans continue the recent failures brought on by the moderatism you profess. Only you are much worse at it than the others."

Dead on!

Your are delusional. Your ignorance of history, politics, and economics is surpassed only by your detachment from reality. Get help!

Right. Look at the states

Submitted by In between on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 20:44.

Right. Look at the states that lost jobs, and then look at the electoral vote from the Midwest. It went to Obama. Now if you want the votes, I would consider having respect for the middle class and for the Midwest. But like always the republicans ends up for the party of the rich. 

A word for "Pea-Brain-In Chief"

Submitted by undoctored on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 11:01.

 When you describe President Obama as "Teleprompter-in-Chief," what is it exactly that you are referring to? What is the object of your ridicule? Do  you really think the President should or could wing it on the many topics he has to address every single day? Has it occurred to you that, when he addresses a complex issue, he wants the details to be perfectly clear?  How could he commit so much to memory or why should he when technology has provided him with an easy solution?

If you're suggesting that Obama can't speak extemporaneously, why don't you watch him in a format like the March 22nd 60 Minutes interview?  I think your problem is that you are so embarrassed with the last GOP president's inability to put two sentences together and so envious of Obama's superior mind and command of the English language that you just can't bear the comparison.  Therefore, in Rove-like-fashion, you try to belittle Obama's greatest strength. The last time that perverse tactic succeeded was when the Right trashed the military hero, John Kerry. That simply is not going to happen again despite the efforts of envious blowhards like you.

Campaigning but not running

Submitted by lgm on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 12:10.

Obama is not campaigning for office, he's building support for his economic agenda.  If Republicans want to copy this strategy, they need to come up with an agenda to build support for. 

Come up with an agenda?

Submitted by Joe C. on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 13:27.

The Republicans had/have an alternative economic plan, but the Dems refused to give it a hearing let alone a vote, and the Media refused to publicize it. Just because you refuse to acknowledge the existence of something, or are ignorant of its existence, does not mean that it does not exist.

Seems like Boehner from my

Submitted by In between on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 14:50.

Seems like Boehner from my state is clueless along with the rest of the republicans. As an independent, this is where I am coming from. A failed president and failed ideologies 

And this is what we need to do. My own stimulus long and short

I don't have an answer on the financial crisis. Either we bail out everyone or we let the nation and world crash. We had the roaring twenties for the past 8 years and we are in a near depression. Hannity, Limbaugh, and others ignored what was going on. So the credibility of the republicans are in shambles.

Boehner -- gotta love him!

Submitted by acinphx on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 16:13.

I had a good laugh this week after seeing a clip of Boehner's press conference to criticize Pres. Obama for taking time out of saving the nation's economy  to make his bracket picks and appear on Leno.

Aside from the odd implication that presidents can't walk and chew gum at the same time, wasn't Boehner taking time away from his pressing legislative duties in this time of crisis to talk about someone else taking time away from what he claimed should be the exclusive order of business?  Too funny!

One of my pet peeves is that

Submitted by In between on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 16:46.

One of my pet peeves is that Bush said "free trade is good" while we watched our factories close in the Midwest and no one is doing anything about it. And all the republicans can say is that we need more tax cuts and that solves all problems. I don't see Boehner doing anything about the lost jobs. 

Yeah, but you're not an independent, are you?

Submitted by section9 on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 20:43.

Please. We weren't born yesterday. We've seen libs pull this "I'm an independent and I'll never vote for a Republican again" scam before. It's like watching someone go to the Patent Office with a proposal for a Perpetual Motion Machine.

The whole list of Crimes of the Bushist Crime Family sort of gave away your whole Democratic pedigree. I'm sort of surprised you didn't throw in ol' Prescott and the Plot to Finance Hitler's Rise To Power, but I'll put that down to you being new at this. 

That was a dumb thing to do. Normally, independents are a "plague on both houses" type of voter. They usually don't come across sounding like someone who just sent five grand to Code Pink. 

Please don't try this without adult supervision. Ask Kos, he'll walk you through it. He's good.

 

Hi! I'm a liberal Democrat!

Submitted by RisingTide on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 11:25.

I want a choice next time around -- persuade me to vote Republican, if you can. ;-)

some of us are honest.

Inbetween is a republican who is sick of republicans.

it depends how liberal you are

Submitted by bubbaquimby on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 14:58.

I have no problem with the future GOP having primaries between libertarians (Sanford) vs moderates (Huntsman), in fact that would be my preferred GOP. But I can't imagine either of them would be platable to you since you don't really like any of the three stools of the GOP (social, fiscal and military) not just social conservatism.

 

I know you said you like Ike (fyi one of my favorite presidents), but he was pretty much a fiscal conservative (balance budget, cut gov't spending), he felt states where better places for social issues like civil rights, only major difference from now until today was military were he was a realist and wanted a small military and tried to get peace where he could (Korea).

 

 

odd fact about ike: blacks voted for him heavily.

Submitted by RisingTide on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 15:36.

Social conservatism belongs in the home, not in the statehouse.

I'll be all for fiscal conservatism once we get out of this deuced recession. Obama ain't giving us nearly the juice to get us out the good ol' Keynesian way, fwiw.

I want a lean and mean military, and about the smallest amout of strategic "military industrial complex" -- it's why I'm pro-bailout for the auto makers. At least they don't have delusions of starting wars for profit (and yet, they're of prime strategic importance.).

Our military has only gotten smarter, since Vietnam, and I want to preserve that.

Whenever someone starts to talk about balanced budgets -- sure it always sounds good, but the devil's in the details. I'll take each idea there skeptically.

In short: i may be a bleeding heart liberal (eheh. NOT! I was the one calling for forcing people to live in cars for six months before we help them out), but that doesn't mean I don't have other priorities as well.

As much as I might want a balanced budget, I refuse to give credence to the folks who say that our deficit is going to "bury our grandchildren" in debt. We'll inflate our way out of it, like every other gov't in history has done. Which will hurt the elderly. Everyone else will get cost of living adjustements. And life will go on.  If you ask me, that's a better idea than just letting the factories close for a year, until new factories are built where we can put all the stockbrokers and housing agents to work.

You need somone to at least point out the dangers of huge debt

Submitted by bubbaquimby on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 16:05.

Not that I think China will ever call in our debts and I don't think we can have a balance budget right now either but you need people to talk about how massive Obama's budget is. There is a reason you have 15 moderate Democrats joining together.

In your list I still don't see much a reason not to be a Democrat and that's without the GOP being bad or good. They just seem to fit you better which is why I would think you would be happy about the Dems winning instead of spending so much time worrying about what the GOP is doing. I mean I am a social moderate who is more fiscally conservative so it does me no good to have a fiscal/social liberal party vs a fiscal liberal/social conservative party.

As for social conservatism your probably right since younger voters are more in favor of stem cell research and gay rights. Only issue that doesn't change with age is abortion. But I will say this, I think social liberalism belongs in the statehouse not the Capitol.

That's the whole point of the post!

Submitted by acinphx on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 15:22.

The OP is arguing for taking the GOP's plan directly to people through a community door-knocking campaign.  Others responded by pointing out the need to present something to the people in doing that.  So if you know the GOP had/has an alternative plan, why worry about the Dems?  What the Dems did or didn't do in terms of hearings and votes is irrelevant because you say the GOP in fact has a plan to present directly to voters in the course of door-knocking.

It seems to me the GOP is way past the point where the party can comfortably sit back and just whine about Dems.  They either craft credible proposals of their own and sell them without respect to whatever Dems are doing or not doing, or they can comfort themselves by enjoying some fine 'whine' as the ship sinks.

What, indeed, would they have to offer?

Submitted by NoMoreBlatherDotCom on Sat, 03/21/2009 - 14:04.

If the idea that the president is sending people out to collect names doesn't scare the GOP, then what (non-financial issue) would? It might also be easily determined who didn't want to sign on to his agenda. I made this video almost a year ago, but as a satire. Now we've got the president's people knocking on doors and an upcoming Clean Energy Corps.

On a lighter note, things like this could be a prankster's holiday. Say no more!

I'm sure the original plan sounds better in German

Submitted by section9 on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 21:13.

People don't like the Strength Through Joy kids  coming to their doors and writing down names when there's not an election going on. The problem with urban activists is that they think that everyone likes people getting in their face.  Obama's organizing effort, remember, got him a grand-spanking 53% of the vote against a cast member of Night of the Living Dead. 

Color me unimpressed. Tricky Dick got 61% in 1972 against a better opponent, George McGovern. That would be Richard Milhouse Nixon, whose 1972 Campaign, skippered by Maurice Stans and featuring such notables as a young Roger Ailes and Pat Buchanan, gave the Trickster the biggest margin since FDR's crusher against Landon. So allow me to suggest we've been sold a huge bill of goods by the Media and the Democrats about how awesome a candidate is Barack Obama. 

People from Chicago, it seems, believe that America is just one big series of wards. It's not that way. You have to understand that Obama comes from the same activist milieu that gave rise to Bob Avakian and the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigades. They were cranks, but Avakian and his crowd would have understood what Obama was doing. 

Not that he was a RCYB'er, but he existed and swam in that same sea. I lived in Hyde Park for years, so I get how Obama might think, "O geez, let's just organize everyone to support my positions, and let's find out now who's not for me." The Daley Machine did this all the time. Even the Good Government types in the Fifth Ward of Hyde Park knew what was going on. They simply pretended not to know that there was criminality going on downtown as long as the University of Chicago could keep its hands clean. Everyone won in Obama's case because now the pork, the graft, and the logrolling will now flow into Chicago like flowers at a Mob funeral. 

Part of that street money will go to the goons at ACORN. As you guessed, their job is to make sure that people like Jimmy Hoffa, Marylyn Monroe, and Jesus H. Christ vote early, and often. I'm not sure that they're part of this "Organizing for America" campaign, but I wouldn't be surprised if they play a critical role in urban areas where Axelrod has to test run critical 2010 and 2012 turnout plans. 

BTW, that's what this is all about. It has nothing to do with "Organizing for America". It's all about vote turnout. Just remember that when a smiling young Sturmbannfuhrer comes to your door and asks for your papers. 

 

People don't like the

Submitted by NextRightNando on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 21:51.

People don't like the Strength Through Joy kids  coming to their doors and writing down names when there's not an election going on.

So this is what democracy has come to in your eyes - neighbors are not supposed to go out and talk to neighbors - we should all just sit on the couch and consume what the media chooses to tell us.

Obama's organizing effort, remember, got him a grand-spanking 53% of the vote against a cast member of Night of the Living Dead. Color me unimpressed. Tricky Dick got 61% in 1972 against a better opponent, George McGovern. That would be Richard Milhouse Nixon, whose 1972 Campaign, skippered by Maurice Stans and featuring such notables as a young Roger Ailes and Pat Buchanan, gave the Trickster the biggest margin since FDR's crusher against Landon. So allow me to suggest we've been sold a huge bill of goods by the Media and the Democrats about how awesome a candidate is Barack Obama.

In 1972 Nixon was the incumbant! And in what sense was George McGovern a good candidate?

Obama's margin of victory - 7% - was just 0.8% less than that of GHW Bush in 1988. And Bush had the advantages of Reagan's coattails and not being the first black candidate.

 

not inbetween, I know who I am and not afraid to say it.

Submitted by Artruen on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 21:27.

Wow. new here. Welcome to me. thanks. My obamaprompter had that on it. sorry. That 'inbetween' thing (who sounds hardcore leftist, cetainly not 'inbetween' unless it is refering to its sex) certainly could write a book. (and almost did above, must be a real True Believer or a Session Commenter) Maybe he, she or it could title its book something like, oh, how about, Mein Kampf? or The Communist Manifesto? Or The State and Revolution? Hitler, Marx or Lenin? That is the message that needs to go out. Freedom or socialism.

We survived Carter, albeit with long-term damage, we survived hippies, even though the drug war rages on; obama and his army of brownshirts, I am not so sure about....

 You are kidding "hard core

Submitted by In between on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 22:21.

 You are kidding "hard core leftist." I just saw for 8 years how far right this country can go with corporate fascism, possible religion in government, the muzzling of scientists, the ridicule of embryonic stem cell research, deficits and debt, money going to Iraq, our jobs going overseas, lies, deceit, cronyism, neoconism,  arrogance, ignorance, and incompetence. Bush left this country and the Middle East in a total mess. Oh, how about Hitler using religion as his basis to attack other countries, and Bush used his righteousness to go to Iraq because he "believes in a higher authority." 

What we saw was a classic case of a social conservative running this country. Totally clueless, stuck on his ideology and he brought the country down. Bush did not give you freedom. He screwed up what capitalism was supposed to be about. And through all the arrogance, you got Obama. Yes, we saw the far right, it is probably worse than the far left. Now, can we run the country in the middle?

GET HELP!!!

Submitted by Joe C. on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 05:26.

"I just saw for 8 years how far right this country can go..."

HAHHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHHAHHHAHHHAHAHHA!!! You just saw in '06 the Congress flip because people said that the Republicans lost their conservative principles and McCain lose in '08 for voting for TARP I; yet you still make that statement.

Corporate socialism is a form of government of the left -- i.e. Nazis and Fascists. Learn some history and political science, and...GET HELP!!!

8 years of borrowed money for

Submitted by In between on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 06:12.

8 years of borrowed money for tax cuts and for a war. You guys are a joke.

Cheney "Deficits don't matter." Limbaugh and Hannity, for 8 years. What deficits?

And "Free trade is good" as factories close. What idiots.

 

Inbetween is exactly what I

Submitted by Artruen on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 06:34.

Inbetween is exactly what I am talking about. We need a consistent message.The left preaches hate and venom. Absolutely consistently. They masquerade as something nice that has been wronged. Anyone with any political sense knows that inbetween is not centrist but one must also realize that he is not here preaching to conservatives. He is adressing the reader that comes to the blogs looking for the reason to go one way or another. Seems like every conservative blog on the internet has one of these hardcore trolls. Anyway his message is not nice but they pound it home, day after day, and it works. Bush is dumb, bush done us all wrong, bushcheneychimpyhitler and on and on. blah blah. And yes 'inbetween' your a hardcore leftist. You read like Marx.....

 Also, as I have to leave for

Submitted by In between on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 07:35.

 Also, as I have to leave for a few hours, if you want to talk about issues and solving problems, then I am all ears. I am sure we want the best for the country. 

Please provide examples of left "hate and venom"

Submitted by NextRightNando on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 07:45.

Please provide examples of "the left" preaching "hate and venom". And it would be nice if you they were from a person or organization that have some degree of prominence or influence.

You can see how aggravating

Submitted by In between on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 07:29.

You can see how aggravating it can be, when the political party that was in power just keeps up with terrible policies and ideologies which is destroying the middle class and the country. Obviously, you cannot read into what I say. I want the best for the country. 

What can one say as I have watched Bush make his speeches week after week for three years and saying that "we are winning the war on terror" as the war was getting worse. What can one say, some 3 days later, Bush says " Brownie. you're doing a heck of a job." What can one say when Bush says "Free trade is good" as factories close, as people lose their jobs, healthcare, and pensions. What can one say to the cities and states going broke, and the need for infrastructure when you had 1 trillion dollars go to Iraq. What does one say, when we went to Iraq with only 170,000 troops for two wars, and his father had 500,000 troops and the war paid for by other countries. And we still did not get Osama Bin Laden. 

What does one say when everyone had to bail out Bush out of his problems. Saudi Arabia out of his bankrupt Arbusto Oil company. Deficits and debt. Bob Gates and the Iraq Study group on Iraq. 

And what can one say when Bush said "America, has no problems."

Now do you think, I should have venom? Or should I go along with this fairy tale of failed ideologies. How is one supposed to think as the far right has destroyed this country and the middle class. You cannot come up with answers. You can ridicule, but you have no answers.

I rest my case.....you ain't

Submitted by Artruen on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 20:35.

I rest my case.....you ain't no 'in between', your hardcore partisan and therefore prevaricating with every word you type. I have no need to 'prove' anything to you, I offer my opinion. This 'proof' crap is the usual red herring.  Ya want venom and hate, read your posts here on a conservative website. You want venom and hate go to Kos or Huffpo.Troll on marxist, your socialist utopia awaits......if anyone needs proof this is a concerted effort, try this link.

http://rightwingsparkle.blogspot.com/

same MO, different day.

Nice to see that you and Joe

Submitted by In between on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 21:21.

Nice to see that you and Joe C want to ignore the rights problems. This is typical of the rights ridicule, everyone who disagrees is a liberal. And again, you have no answers to todays problems. 

You know I went round and

Submitted by In between on Mon, 03/23/2009 - 21:35.

You know I went round and round with Lagomoph, who is I assume a big republican or should I say conservative. We ended up agreeing on a lot of things.

So I am offering an olive branch. Here is my answer. And mind you, I do not think there is a perfect party or perfect economics. But I do believe that you have to manage the country, get rid of ideology, see its problems and work on them, instead of just tax cuts and cutting spending.

My own stimulus long and short 

No, idjit, I don't know who

Submitted by Artruen on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 08:27.

No, idjit, I don't know who you went round and round with. Or care. I just stopped by here the other day because it seemed to me all the blogs I read suddenly have a troll similar to you in name and argument. Nor do I care for an olive branch. You spout left wing ideology, you spout daily talking points. I don't need an answer to life's mysteries. The left daily pounds home their message, they do not use kindness, they use a club. This is my point and my opinion. Years of pounding on the GOP has taken its toll. Then they offer a Revolutionary type personality and here we are. I think it was a good strategy. Harass, divide and conquer, introduce a Dear Leader to Save us all. That was what the thread was all about. Not about a Koskid named inbetween suggesting to readers that are not inbetween but have formulated an adult opinion independently of the political parties his or her ideas of what a party that he, she, or it clearly despises should do as a national strategy. OK, gotta job, gotta go. If I ain't back, it isn't cause of inbetween, just too much to read already.

Well, all I wanted was to

Submitted by In between on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 11:44.

Well, all I wanted was to have our country do better for everyone. Unfortunately, the policies of the last 8 years has been against the middle class. I am not trying to divide and conquer. I have given my own ideas, some republican, some democrat, and some from an independent point of view.  I don't know what makes you think that I am spewing left wing ideology. If you can be more specific. So far, I have only expressed and given out the truth.

your good, man, utterly full

Submitted by Artruen on Wed, 03/25/2009 - 19:21.

your good, man, utterly full of sh**, but good. I don't have the energy to argue with you, I am busy on other blogs with your clones. If I have time, I will get back to you and that idiot manifesto you wrote on this website. T Boone Pickens? Really? Are you really that dumb? really? later.

We need candidates who understand this

Submitted by Michael D Armstrong on Tue, 03/24/2009 - 12:45.

 

Rob. It's a good idea that you have outlined but getting Massachusetts Republican Town Committees and candidates to go along is another thing.

Case in point. I worked as a full time Field Director for a campaign here in Massachusetts. They let me go a month before the election because they said they were out of money. They needed the remaining funds for direct mail. ( I have yet to be fully paid for 2008 but the candidate is raising money for a 2010 run. How's that for integrity?) I am really glad I left that campaign!  I wanted this candidate to meet voters and use our volunteers to knock on doors, work on phone banks, ID voters and recruit more volunteers. The candidate wanted the Field Director to get bumper stickers in the mail, to distribute yard signs, to distribute signs for standouts, and have ALL available volunteers come into the campaign office to stuff envelopes. 

The candidate rarely left the confines of the campaign office and spent a significant amount of time on administrative projects such as:

  • updating the 1997 era website
  • re-writing fundraising letters
  • constantly re-writing direct mail pieces and voter guides
  • sending daily email blasts
  • data entry
  • trying to figure out how to upload voter vault data collected from fundraising events 
  • figurng out where yard signs should go etc.

This candidate lost, of course, by a wide margin. 

I bring this up because we need candidates who get it. Along with using new media and voter ID, they need to interact with voters and not hide out in campaign offices expecting yard signs, bumper stickers, standouts, newspaper articles , letters to the editor, boring text emails, outdated websites and direct mail to do the job. And we should not support or waste time on candidates who don't get it. I know I won't. (The next cycle I will be out of MA and in Ohio helping candidates.) And you can bet I will only help candidates who are willing to step out of their campaign office and meet their future constituents, let staff do their jobs and who want to use new media effectively.

Despite my experience with the old school campaign last fall,  I like your idea of meeting "high propensity R's,' and knocking on doors of "the Unenrolled's that voted in the 08, 06, and 04 GOP primaries." While I have a few more months here in Massachusetts I will try this with the Ward Committee I run. We have nothing to lose and could inspire other RTCs and candidates here to do the same.