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Caught: Illegal voter registration in VA and rubix cubes

Submitted by Soren Dayton on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 21:22
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Warner Todd Huston just wrote about ACORN embezzling issues. Thankfully, we just gave a criminal organization another chunk of change in the Housing Bill. Allegedly, it was to push more people into subprime loans, which they have been doing for the last decade or so. Of course, that was a bad idea.

Another big project of theirs is voter registration.  Like so many voter-reg groups, like the one below, they are premised on a business model that incentivizes illegality. Watch this:

If Barack Obama were to win Virginia by a handful of votes, this would be a fundamental part of how it happened. The Obama campaign, ACORN, and Congressional Democrats are planning for that.

Somehow it was a priority for Congressional Democrats to fund people illegally register voters, but it isn't to defend the right to vote for our soldiers.

H/T Election Journal.

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I agree. We need to crack

Submitted by chris m on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 21:52.

I agree. We need to crack down on voter fraud. If the right's going to regain credibility we also need to be principaled about it and start with the problem of valid voters being turned away. Otherwise it just looks partisan.

I'm sorry, but what exactly do you see as the problem here.

Submitted by KJ on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 22:28.

I have no problem with punishing people who fill out fake voter registration cards but if you watch this story it is quite obvious, that even if these three people would have never been caught, this would have resulted in exactly 0 extra votes for any candidate.  Likely, you've got 3 people, who either sucked at getting people to sign up or were too lazy to do it, still wanted to get paid, and faked the names to take home some cash.  This would never turn into actual votes because the people committing the fraud care about the money, not the votes. 

Acorn hires cheap labor and gets obvious results but all and all they register lots of new people to vote and that's a good thing.  As has been proven by studies like this one in the recent Supreme Court Case: http://truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/CrawfordAllegations.pdf, there is no evidence of any voter fraud.  Here's the Times on it: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.htm. 

What is being uncovered is fraud against employers, namely ACORN.  It's pretty obvious that most registration fraud is some loser picking names out of the phone book in order to collect money.  Wise up, and quit trying to stir up demand for ID laws that will end up disenfranchising lots of people including nuns:  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/nuns-turned-away-from-po...

Spare us the insane claim that voting fraud doesn't happen.

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 23:03.

You dont see the problem here? Invalid voters on the rolls is not a problem?!?! ACORN's activities enables vote fraud just as well as a money laundering operation supports drug dealing. Its a part of the corrupt system. Invalid voters are a goldmine for vote fraud. Just one example: Massive vote fraud in Miami by a previous Mayor was built on it in combo with absentee ballots. 

People dont actually cast invalid votes!?!?

Todd Stuart McGuire, a longtime Jefferson County Democratic Party supporter, was charged July 2 with voter fraud.

He's accused of either repeating a vote or impersonating his wife, Rebekah, by casting her ballot in a Feb. 6, 2007, special election. Both charges are Class C felonies and carry a maximum penalty of five years in jail and/or a $10,000 fine, according to charging documents.

Neither the McGuires nor Todd McGuire's attorney Ben Critchlow could be reached for comment last week or Monday.

Todd McGuire is scheduled to appear in Jefferson County Superior Court at 8:30 a.m. Friday, July 18.

The McGuires have been prominent in local Democratic Party activities. Todd McGuire is a former treasurer for current Democratic County Commissioner David Sullivan. Rebekah McGuire is currently a Democratic precinct committeewoman.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2044836/posts

MARION, Ala. — Federal and state authorities are looking into accusations of voting fraud in three largely black counties of Alabama, including Perry and Lowndes Counties, which played a historic role in the struggle for black voting rights in the 1960s.

In May, a local citizens group gathered affidavits detailing several cases in which at least one Democratic county official paid citizens for their votes, or encouraged them to vote multiple times. The affidavits were presented to state officials in Montgomery, the capital, and after the June 3 primary, the Alabama attorney general, Troy King, a Republican, seized voting records from the primary election in Bullock, Lowndes and Perry Counties.

The United States Department of Justice posted a team of observers to monitor the primary, and the Alabama secretary of state, Beth Chapman, a Republican, reported hearing from one of the federal observers that a candidate had “free rein” of a polling place, where campaigning is prohibited, passing out sample ballots and instructing voters how to vote.

Ms. Chapman also raised questions about the possible abuse of absentee ballots. In the election on June 3, a quarter of the voters here, 1,114, cast absentee ballots, a percentage that is six times the state average and a figure that Ms. Chapman called “astronomical.” In Jefferson County, which includes Birmingham and has 60 times Perry County’s population of 10,600, there were 365 absentee ballots.

Blacks hold a majority on the five-member Perry County Commission. And an influential political organization, the Perry County Civic League, founded during the civil rights movement by one of the movement’s leaders, Albert Turner Sr., plays a large role in filling other offices.

New York Times via http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2043277/posts

Then there is Wisconin 2004:

That same year, irregularities in Wisconsin, which allows same-day voter registration, arguably allowed the Democrats to steal Wisconsin and its 11 electoral votes.

For instance, in addition to felons voting illegally in America's Dairyland, people voting twice, the number of votes counted in Milwaukee County, the state's most populous, exceeded the number of people who actually exercised their franchise.

http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/01/vote-fraud-news-obama-acorn-a...

 

It links to this headline:

Investigators said Tuesday they found clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee, including more than 200 cases of felons voting illegally and more than 100 people who voted twice, used fake names or false addresses or voted in the name of a dead person.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=324933

This is just the tip of the iceberg.   if you dont think voting fraud changes key elections and even history, you can review the LBJ 1948 (Caro's bio proves it was stolen in south Texas counties controlled by political bosses) or JFKs win in 1960 (Chicago voter fraud).

So please spare us the insane claim that voting fraud doesn't happen or that these ACORN fraudulent voter registrations are not enablers of it. They are.

And btw, you need a picture ID to go to the bank,  write a check in a supermarket, get liquor, drive, go overseas (passport) and do many other things. It's the right thing to have picture ID to verify voters as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Fraud?

Submitted by KJ on Tue, 07/29/2008 - 10:02.

Come on, you guys are Republicans, you know that government can't keep records and hires idiots.  And 75 year old volunteers manning polls doesn't help either. You get what you pay for. That's what happened in Milwaukee, not some widespread conspiracy to throw the election.  Perhaps if we funded elections at a decent level, we wouldn't end up with so many errors.  A Voter ID law would just make it more complicated and less accurate.  How about an election holiday where we hire smart people with the day off to help staff the thing. 

And then we have the Miami incident where  a guy voted for his wife.  Who cares?  Prosecute him and be done with it.  Personally, I think a small fine is fine for a crime like that.  I know who my wife is voting for.  In fact, given the prominence of absentee ballots these days, can you imagine how much fraud is occuring there if we count spouses voting for each other.  If you really want to crack down on voter fraud, you should be working to outlaw absentee ballots.  Personally, I think getting more people to vote is more important than a bit of fraud around the edges.  The only possible way fraud will ever make a difference will be in local elections like that Alabama case; votes for local judges, sheriffs, concilmen and such.  But implementing state or national laws to stop that is draconion considering the number of legitimate voters that will be turned away or won't bother to vote due to voter ID laws. 

Anectdote is not evidence.  Voting is ugly and messy and very imperfect.  Making it harder only makes it worse.  And considering we have a country where we recently elected a President who received over 500,000 less votes than his opponent, I think we have a larger fair elections issue to deal with.  No?

Picture voter ID could have stopped Milwaukee 2004 vote fraud

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Sun, 07/27/2008 - 23:13.

I found this gem in the linked article on voter fraud in Milwaukee in the 2004 election, one with the headlines:

Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

Cast ballots outnumber voters by 4,609

There were thousands of votes in Milwaukee that could not be accounted for. The gem is this admission that a photo ID could have stopped much of it:

A photo ID requirement might have caught some of the problems highlighted in Tuesday's preliminary report. It notes cases of people voting in the name of a dead person or as someone else. Investigators located some people listed as voting who said they did not vote.

In other cases, according to Tuesday's report, people "registered and voted with identities and addresses that cannot in any way be linked to a real person."

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=324933