Fox reporting on OH voting irregularities

Fox is covering the voting issues in OH:

Transcript after the jump:


GRETCHEN CARLSON: Let’s talk to you about a story out in Ohio, I believe, Columbus. Of course Ohio we were just talking about, one of the most important battleground states there, and they started this controversial program this week where people could come and register to vote and vote at the exact same time before you could actually try and prove where they actually live, if they are actually residents, or if they’re just Mary Poppins.  Well now there is a report coming out by Shelby Holiday from where she says that she was going to do some reporting on what she thought was going to be a lot of students coming to register to vote.  But what she ended up seeing were bus loads of homeless people being brought into these places and registering and voting.  And she joins us now on the phone from Columbus, Ohio.  Good morning to you.

STEVE DOOCY: Shelby?  Shelby?  Shelby, are you there?

SHELBY HOLLIDAY: I went down to go do a story and was down at vets memorial in Columbus, Ohio.  I saw all but about two students in the 30 minutes I was there.  The young people that I did interview were telling me that they were with organizations who were picking homeless people off the streets and bringing them to the polls and encouraging them to vote.  So, check this sound bite out.

DOOCY: Shelby, I understand.  Ok, let’s listen to the sound bite, sorry.

PERSON 1: We’re running a free vote taxi program.  We will come and pick you up at your house.  Drop you off wherever you want.

PERSON 2: And people at the bus stop asked them if they’re registered to vote.  And if they weren’t I said “get in the car I'm bringing you.”

PERSON 3: See me walking around and stuff so they said “hey, man you want to vote?”  And I said yeah I’ll vote.  I said, he said, “man I’ll take you anywhere you want. I said “that's cool.”

PERSON 4: It’s fast and the people are very polite, and they explained, you know, all about it.

PERSON 3: I mean, if they say “sign the ballot,” just give them and do exactly what they ask you to do.  I mean, hey, this is America.  Know what I mean?

DOOCY: Shelby, so these organizers who are picking up all these people, what are they telling them to do?  If they are bringing them out of a homeless shelter, what are they telling them is in it for them?

HOLLIDAY: Well, organizers, when I spoke with the organizers, they said they are trying to help those, it might be a little move tough for them to vote this year.  They want them to get out and vote and want them to exercise their right to vote.  So the organizers are just really trying to help people who don’t have IDs or don’t have a permanent address to get out there and cast ballots.

BRIAN KILMEADE: Do you think that some of them, while they’re driving out there, are telling them who to vote for?

HOLLIDAY: Well, no, all the people I spoke with that they were bipartisan.  But when I talked with the homeless people, it became apparent that they were being offered rides to whoever they wanted or, I’m not, I can’t -- it did not appear that these homeless people… Most of them did not know exactly what was going on.

DOOCY: Alright, Shelby Holliday from We thank you very much.  We understand from her blog at Shelby also said that the people who winding up there, they didn’t have to prove they lived in the state.  In fact, she talked to one guy who was about to get on a bus to go to Chicago, Illinois where he lived.  All they had to do was give four numbers.

CARLSON: Well this is the whole problem with the whole thing, and this is why it went to the highest levels of the court.  Because with Ohio being, really frankly any state, but with Ohio being such a close state, is this right?  You be the judge.


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voter fraud

It is completely unacceptable in this day and age for people to be so dishonest as to try to sway the polls by grabbing people off the street and asking them to go vote. There should be no one voting who cannot attest to their place of residence. If I wanted to go to Ohio today and vote, with things they way they are right now in that jurisdiction, I could. Folks, I live in Colorado! Given that I wouldn't have to prove legal residence, and only give four numbers (which numbers those are, I don't think anyone really knows), I could vote there, then come back to Colorado and cast my mail-in ballot. What a farce. There should be court cases raised to the highest level in this land, even if it takes until inauguration day to resolve. If you want to live in a communist society, go to China. If you want to follow the rules of this country's voting process, then go ahead and stay here, but do it correctly and legally. We have the right to vote - not often and not for grins and giggles - it is a heavy responsibility electing someone to run this country's issues. If all you want is free healthcare, go to the local free clinic. If you want a government that will be responsive and work to make things better, without getting into everyone's pockets, you'll take a good, hard look at where each candidate stands on those issues. TANSTAAFL - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch - if you think Obama and his ilk will give you that, then you really do need to live in China.

Wow..Homeless People Get to Vote?

What a crock. You should have a mortgage in order to vote and pass a voter literacy test. Please get this video to the McCain campaign. They need to start purging the OH voter rolls ASAP. Oh, wait..they are on top of that. Maybe they can draft a voter literacy test before Nov. 4th.

Nice sarcasm.

No we don't want true Landholder Only voting.


But this is skipping around the protections. Registrations aren't checked immediately, and you're allowed to "cast your ballot" before the records are checked to see if you're already registered. "Whoops! Donald Duck is already registered!" Nor does this generally pass residency requirements.


The vote can't be discarded then - because you can't identify it. That's the "Secret Ballot" aspect.


In Washington State, a court determined that 3000 ballots were illegally cast in 2004 - in an election decided by under 200 votes. But even though you could figure out the votes were illegal, you couldn't figure out for whom the ballots were cast. The closest we got was asking a couple of convicted felons "WHo did you vote for?"

This is a scandal?

Sounds aggressive to me, sounds a little unseemly, but. But.

Does Ohio require a permanent place of residence to vote? If not, well, they have a right to vote. If that permanent place of residence is a shelter, and that is what is listed, they have a right to vote.  We long ago gave up on a property requirement to vote (like two hundred years ago, guys.) We long ago gave up on a literacy requirement (and besides, who said they can't read - being homeless does not mean you can't read).

If the law allows a homeless resident of the state to vote, then they should be able to vote and if someone is clever enough to round them up, god bless.   If someone out of state comes in and claims to be homeless, that's called fraud and is probably a felony.  As far as I am aware, no one is making allegations of that sort.  No one is alleging these homeless gentlemen are being paid to vote, or paid to vote a particular way.  Or even told to vote a certain way.  Again, it may be an aggressive tactic, but illegal? No. Immoral? No.  Slimy? Well, no. They're getting people to vote, and the more people who vote in an election, the more the election represents the will of the electorate, right?  The worst votes are when a minority of possible voters elect people who affect us all.  Most presidential elections are decided by less than 27% of the country.  That's messed up.

I say the more that vote, the merrier, regardless of which way the votes fall.


Well that would be all well and good....


These people are hardly expected to vote for McCain.  So you see the problem here, right?

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