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Obama's dishonest surrogates

Submitted by Soren Dayton on Sun, 09/07/2008 - 23:36
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Regarding the recent statements by Howard Gutman, making the kinds of attacks that Barack Obama has personally disavowed, Obama broke his word. Typically, there has been no consequences. In fact, as Jim Geraghy notes, this has been a pattern:

No sign that Gutman has departed the Obama campaign. In fact, we're getting a rerun of something we saw earlier this year. Whenever we saw an Obama surrogate — say, Wes Clark, George McGovern, Jay Rockefeller, Tom Harkin, Democratic congressional candidate Bill Gillespie, Ed Schultz or Tony McPeak — attacking John McCain's war record, the response was always the same - a short, curt, pro forma "we disapprove" statement from a spokesman, with no real consequences for the surrogate who stepped out of line.

We really have to start pressuring this guy to keep his word on this stuff. There is something profoundly fraudulent about his claims of a new kind of politics, pre-emptively denouncing this stuff, and then doing nothing when it acually happens.

In the case of Gutman, the appropriate response is clear. Minimally, he should remove Gutman from the Finance Committee and from any formal role in the campaign. If he were serious about any of this, he would give back some or all of Gutman's money.

But Obama isn't serious about his commitments. So it won't happen.

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dishonest blogger misrepresents campaign statements

Submitted by mnmod on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 00:54.

Gutman was questioning Sarah Palin's judgement and priorities and not attacking her children.  Several nonpolitical moms in my neighborhood are also quite critical of Palin's decision to take on the demanding schedule of a presidential campaign considering  her family circumstances.  They think she should wait some years for a more appropriate time to take on the grueling schedule of a national campaign and possibly VP duties. 

As for Obama's statement about how he would fire staff for smears of  Palin's family, that was in response to a question re the babygate rumors from last weekend,  the ones speculating the that Bristol was really Trig's mother.  I read daily kos much of that weekend and  majority opinion there was back off the story, (mixed in with some criticism of the risks Palin took with her 20 hour journey  home to Wasilla after her water broke rather than straight to the hospital as most doctors advise in such cases.)

Anyhoo, I don't see how Gutman comment is a firing offence, as it is not a smear  (facts  of special needs infant and pregant daughter are well known)  nor is it directed at Palin's children. Personally I think Obama has exactly the right focus which is  to contrast the partyline differences on the issues. I keep reading various blogs in hopes of getting a clue of what changes in policy Mccain is proposing.

Nice try, mnmod. . .

Submitted by Walt Gilbert on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 02:26.

. . .but, what Obama said was:

"How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off-limits."

And:

"Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I ever thought that there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired."

This clearly falls under Obama's definition of a firing offense.

Sure...

Submitted by elle loco on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 11:10.

 ...because the Democrats are always supposed to fight elections with one hand tied behind their back, while Karl Rove bashes their face in (from behind). 

This is all ridiculous posturing: Don't waste your time lecturing anyone about campaign politesse. This is a streetfight, and your guys can take care of themselves on that score.

Just words. . .

Submitted by Walt Gilbert on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 18:37.

. . .I guess.  But, it seems to me that Obama was unequivocal in what he said.

I guess he was just "makin' stuff up" as he went along.

Cannot Afford a President who lies

Submitted by danielsmth15 on Thu, 07/16/2009 - 05:19.

I share your sentiment and I do believe that a different approach than the one Obama has taken needs to be tried. It's a though that came to my mind during my testking 642-845 certification

Take note of this though. When Democrats say that a Republican is not good for America it is never as effective as when a Republican says that a Democrat is not good for America. Why? Because they have been chanting the mantra that THEY are the patriotic Party, THEY love America THEY support the troops, Republicans represent American values, etc.thought of one of my teachers in testking 642-566

We Democrats have not been able to get traction on that front for a long long time now. There is a history to this going back to the 60's "living-in-the-belly-of-the-beast" days.

All popular cultural trends throughout the world center around this "us" are special "them" are secondary (at best) meme (there I used that word!).

It is our very cosmopolitanism that they play against us.

So while I see where you are going with this (you want to rid yourself of the Democrats curse of being perceived as somewhat less patriotic than the Republicans) I think a straight turn around might not work since it would go against the popular perception that thinks otherwise.

I wish I had a short-term testking642-892 for this problem, but I can't think of one off hand.

On the other hand maybe a swift turnaround as you suggest IS a good start, but I'm afraid they have years invested in questioning our patriotism and it might take years to disabuse our fellow Americans from that indoctrination.

As an afterthought the effect of their incessant questioning of Democrat's patriotism has had an effect on Democrats themselves, alienating them from their own country and casting doubt upon themselves. I wish it were not so, but it is.