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Rule 11: Why Steele has no say on Crist

Submitted by Soren Dayton on Sun, 05/17/2009 - 21:20
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There were a series of questions about whether the RNC would endorse Arlen Specter. Michael Steele has been asked about endorsing Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins. And now people are getting their underwear in a knot about Charlie Crist.

I hate to be super pedantic, but the RNC does not make the endorsement decision. A state's delegation to the Republican National Committee control that process. And Sharon Day, RNC Secretary and Florida Republican National Committeewoman, has refused to support an RNC endorsement:

Sharon Day, of Fort Lauderdale, who holds the post of national Republican committeewoman from Florida, refused Greer's request to sign a letter authorizing the national Republican Party to help Crist in the primary.

Party rules say the party must stay neutral in primaries unless all three members of the national committee from a state sign a letter authorizing the party to take sides. Greer, also a national committee member, and Paul Senft of Bartow, Florida's national committeeman, have both signed the letter.

This is the so-called "Rule 11". 

Can we not play gotcha politics with Michael Steele and his endorsement of various candidates? The guy's hands are tied.

 

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Sharon saves the Day

Submitted by Freedoms Truth on Sun, 05/17/2009 - 23:51.

The NRSC has just committed Hari Kari with their really bad decision to endorse Crist.

Sharon Day saved the RNC from the same embarrassment.

There is ONE WAY TO WIN in 2010 for the GOP - get a strong principled message and UNITE THE RIGHT from the elites to the grassroots.

There are MANY WAYS TO LOSE in 2010, and they include unneeded divisiveness, failure to draw a sharp distinction with Obama's far left agenda, and running the same-old unprincipled politicians who let us down before as their headliners. A Crist cram-down by the elites on the GOP base is a trifecta of bad politics.

This ...

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said Sunday that despite the National Republican Senatorial Committee’s early endorsement of Gov. Charlie Crist in Florida’s GOP Senate primary, neither he nor the RNC will take sides in the contest until after the primary.

... is 100% the right way to play it. Way to go steele and RNC, thank you Sharon Day.  ... and sen Cornyn and NRSC stepped in it, sorry to say.

Yes, I agree

Submitted by davidfarrar on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 17:30.

Sharon Day definitely saved the day for the Florida Republican base. This won't be the only, nor the last, attempt by the corporate elites of the party to squash true grassroot reform at its roots. But until all those Republican Congress members and other political leaders who supported TARP are replaced, true, party reform cannot occur. We must show our party's political leadership that when they fail to do their duty, the grassroot of the party will do theirs. If we fail in our resolve, the Republican party cannot truly be reformed.

           ex animo

          davidfarrar

Although I think Crist would make the better candidate...

Submitted by thirdeblue on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 09:26.

...that doesn't mean he can't earn his primary win like anybody else.  Kudos to Sharon Day.

Arlen Specter's departure has

Submitted by markweee on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 00:36.

Arlen Specter's departure has triggered the predictable media outcry attacking the Republican Party as an increasingly insular conservative rump, a regional party at best with no foothold in the Northeast.

 

Regards,Ashwood University

 

Typical Cornyn...

Submitted by Darvin Dowdy on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 08:45.

...hot one minute, cold the next.  He was hot prior to 11/4/08 when he needed to get re-elected.  Now look at him.  Attempting to dictate to the masses who they'll have available to elect.  People shouldn't assume that because Cornyn and McCain at one time had "harsh words", that there's a thimbles worth of difference between the 2.  They're all part of this dictatorial GOP Hierarchy that'll present us with a bowl of slop to eat and expect us to like it.  They're betting all their chips on one thing - that the Base will be so horrified w/Obama's admin that they'll rally in 2010 and give one of the legislative houses back to the GOP.  That's a reckless and dangerous assumption, in my view. DD

Gotta love those angry piss-filled boots soc-cons like DD

Submitted by Michigan-Matt on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 10:12.

First, we hear from the guys like Darvin that the GOP needs to fail in the 06 and 08 elections in order to bring about "real reform" (which means get the Party to adopt asinine positions like legalizing dope and turn it into LibertarianPartyPartDeux)... make the Party heel like some leash-lunging cur of a dawg who forgot who's the Master and who's da' dawg.

Now, we hear from guys like Darvin that the fictious "GOP elites" haven't learned their lesson 'cause they are messing around with the Club4Greeders' poster boi candidates in FL or PA or wherever else the rocks get lifted and Club4Greeders scamper out of the dark.  Them bad ol' boys in the "dictatorial GOP Heirarchy" needs to be a'taughtened 'nother lessum. Yank on that ol' leash, Darvin.  Bring that ol' dawg to heel... yeah, that's the ticket.

What utter pig slop and hog wash.  The standard line for the RNC and other Party leaders is to stay out of contested primaries and let the best, strongest, most atuned candidate win the nomination --the winning candidate is then better able to handle the General that way.  After the primary contest is when all those "big ol' bad dictatorial GOP Heirarchy" elites get into the contest... when it's reduced to our guy against the Democrats.  That, contrary to the conspiracy nonsense that Darvin sees lurking in the recesses of his mind, is how GOP politics work.

The only reckless and dangerous assumptions here, Darvin, are yours.  Uninformed, lacking insight and woefully short of basic knowledge about political parties and how they actually operate --as opposed to your wild-assed conspiratorial postulations.

Get with the program, learn about reality or keep the stupid notions to yourself and pet rock collection, ok?  This is a serious time for the GOP; we don't idiots misdirecting the debate.

oh, they sure did that GOOD in Rhode Island!

Submitted by Maleficent on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 10:24.

The GOP hierarchy will meddle. Just like the Dem hierarchy will meddle -- like they did in Connecticut, where both Hillary and Obama stuck knives into ned lamont (who still won.)

Wrong again

Submitted by Michigan-Matt on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 13:30.

But you keep on with the evil GOP hierarchy conspiracy nonsense... and, as you do here, even toss in some Democrat hierarchy conspiracy nonsense.

Linc Chaffee lost because he did an ineffective job of convincing voters that he was the right person for the right job.  He did an equally poor job of running his constituent relations operations --in fact, his office was often identified as one of the worst in the GOP Senate Caucus.

Both spell failure at the polls long before the run to the finish line.

talking strictly during the primaries

Submitted by Maleficent on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 13:53.

when there was a ton of GOP manpower shoveled towards Rhode island to help Linc win.

Likewise, the dems sent a ton towards lieberman.

Trying using the thimble, not a howitzer to thread the needle.

Submitted by Michigan-Matt on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 15:47.

It's a question of what you meant when you implied an evil cabal working against Linc Chaffee to insure his defeat... remember, the thread was commenting on the "GOP hierarchy" meddling in the Rhode Island race and it was pointed out to all but you, evidently, that it wasn't the GOP that endorsed Linc or advanced alternate candidates anymore than it was the GOP that provided competition... it was the RSCC that did it. Not the GOP hierarchy... or GOP elites... that's just conspiracy nonsense worthy of sequestration in Area 51.

Use a thimble to stop making the same mistakes, Maleficent.  GOP hierarchy are the guys who run the GOP Natl Party.

Doooo Whhhaaat?....

Submitted by Darvin Dowdy on Tue, 05/19/2009 - 07:58.

...MMatt: your comment reminds me of a firecracker exploding in all different directions.  First, I never would propose legalizing dope. You must've got that from somewhere else.  Second, I held my nose and voted straight gop on 11/7/06 and 11/4/08. Lot of good it did me, huh?  Bush43, Rove, Martinez and the GOP Hierarchy did such a great job of taking the party down and you want to blame folks that became exasperated and simply stayed at home on election day?  Or they protest voted to throw the bums out?  Yea that is really going to do the GOP a lot of good - blame the Base.  Drive more of them away. That is what is happening. (latest polls show us at or about 27%)

Instead the GOP should be trying to reconnect with the Base. But no such effort is being made. Matt, the sad fact is that most in the GOP now are very comfy being the minority party.  They've plenty more time for the golf course and dinner parties.  Winning is simply not a priority for them!  And you want to blame folks like me who recognize and are willing to talk about this tragic flaw??  I'm amazed. Darvin Dowdy

Darvin amazed? Simple minds get that way easily.

Submitted by Michigan-Matt on Tue, 05/19/2009 - 09:52.

Darvin, the earlier posts here chatted extensively about how the GOP needed to embrace wild-assed, pure LibbieLoon nonsense policies like dope legalization, etc.  You must have missed it, eh?  But nice try at misdirecting... you get points for lasering in on a non-attributed point you contend was attributed to you.

There are three standard themes oft' expressed in these threads when taking cheap seat potshots at the GOP (you included):

1) the GOP elites aren't listening to all us little people in the base;

2) the GOP needs to become more Libertarian in its policies and ideology;

3) if it doesn't, we're (the disaffected LibbieLoon sympathizers) going to continue to play the spoiler for the GOP.

I know, it sounds like a 4 yr old promising a temper tantrum if Mommie or Daddums doesn't get them the newest toy or brightest bike on the block... but those are the conventional 3 major themes here most often expressed by the LibbieLoon types... yourself included, especially on Item #1 and its variations.

I get you feel like there are firecrackers going off all around you and you're amazed.  It's called Befuddlement Syndrome.  It's a disease of the LibbieLoon sympathizers and those who contend they are GOPers (even marginally) and know what's best for the Party.

You're amazed.  We get it.  Symptom noted... it's BS.

Okie Dokie, Matt...

Submitted by Darvin Dowdy on Tue, 05/19/2009 - 18:09.

...gosh you don't have to be such a Big Meanie.  All I'm trying to say is that there are certain problems within the GOP that need to be corrected.  The first step to solving a problem is realizing you have one.  The GOP can be fixed if they'll take that 1st step.  There are some brilliant intellects at the helm but brilliant people have flaws, too.  They make mistakes and wander off course just like me and all of us "simple minds" out here in flyover country. 

I certainly don't feel the same way about the democrat party. Its a lost cause.  And as for as the Libertarians you keep harping about?  Well they've had decades to pull something together and never have. Never will either, IMHO.  So there Matt. How's that for someone w/Beffuddlement Syndrome?  You Big Meanie!   DD

May 19th Poll: Crist cruising to VICTORY over Rubio

Submitted by Michigan-Matt on Wed, 05/20/2009 - 06:41.

The reason why the GOP needs to "Just Say No" to the extreme voices supposedly inside the base of the Party is because there are lots of states where accused RINOs are what will win elections.  And Party politics is about winning elections --not like in the Libertarians and Greenies and NaturalLaw parties where debating socieities seem to have taken over in a party-level Purity Politics play to purge all infidels and become more pure, more true, more... extreme.

Republican Primary MatchupCrist: 53%

Rubio: 18%

Undecided: 29%

Democratic Primary MatchupMeek 26%Gelber 16%Undecided 58%

General Election MatchupCrist 55%Meek 24%Undecided 21%

Crist 57%Gelber 22%Undecided 21%

The whole point:  In early general election matchups, Crist defeats either Democrat.

I know, I know; those extreme voices here will say, "But Michigan-Matt, it's early.  There's a bombshell a'coming that'll blow Crist outta da'water"

or "But Michigan-Matt, Rubio hasn't had the opportunity to run a strong camapign and point out all the deficits and demerits of Crist."

or "But Michigan-Matt, Crist is a freakin RINO for crying out loud!!  The GOP needs more real men like Pat2Me!!!! up in PA."

Uhh, huh.  You go with that girl.

Not to rely too much on early polling...

Submitted by Michigan-Matt on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 08:27.

But the May 19th poll results seem to have shut-up the usual LibbieLoon-atics here and the endless whining about RINO-type politicians in the GOP.

Politics is about winning elections; it isn't about purity policy litmus tests for the endless debating societies that plague the Libertarian types.

"Politics is about winning elections"...

Submitted by davidfarrar on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 09:54.

...You have much to learn, Matt. Politics is about winning is the classic corporate approach to governance -- obtain power at any cost. Use any ideology that is successful at the moment, as long as it achieves power with which to pursue the corporate agenda.

I reject your assertion. Politics is about governing, governing correctly. And in a democracy, when politics fails to produce good governance, it's about teaching. The electorate is presently being taught a hard lesson in economics. Who can say how long it will take to re-learn this lesson. I do know, if we, as Republicans, can bring ourselves together around our core principles of less taxes, less government, results in more liberty, that lesson will be learned quicker.

ex animo

davidfarrar

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