Why the town hall strategy will fail unless we shape up

As it's the end of the week, perhaps we ought to take a minute to look in the mirror and assess how and what we're doing.

Every day, I read the political blogs and every day, I'm getting more dissolusioned by the disconnect between the triumphalism that accompmanies each town hall news report and the video that accompanies it.  Blame the MSM until the cows come home, but I know what I see, and it doesn't bode well for the country or the conservative movement.

Perhaps my perspective is different because I live in a blue state, but we are forgetting that we are trying to convince people, not belittle or scream at them.  As every Code Pink loonie who has ever snuck into a congressional hearing has shown, chanting is not an effective method of political persuasion, only a way to prove to the chanters themselves that they have Done Something.

We need to keep our eyes on the goal: persuasion.  Not showing our numbers, not thinking up the most clever signs, but persuasion.  The people who support Obamacare are our neighbors, however wrong they may be on this issue.  They jump our cars when our batteries die.  They go to happy hour with us after work.  They are members of our families.  They are not  "sheeple" or "Obamabots."  Throwing around names like those are direct insults to people you know and love, whether you know it or not.

Obamacare supporters are just like you and me, except they have different opinions on issues of public policy.  If you want to make a difference, persuade them.  Here are some keys to persuasion and having a debate with people who are just like you and me and not some formless menacing mass:

- Engagement: Ask them if they have healthcare and if they like the coverage they have (they probably do).  Ask them if their employer would drop coverage if a public plan were to be created.  Ask them about major elective surgeries they've had and find out how long you have to wait for them in Canada.

- "Democrats did it" is not an excuse for any behavior.  Didn't your mom teach you that something isn't right just because someone else did it?

- Tyranny, Communist and Nazi are words that need to be banished from your vocabulary on this issue.  Your friends and neighbors have a picture in their heads about what a tyranny or a communist dictatorship looks like, and it isn't America, with or without socialized medicine.  Trying to convince people that the USA will be a socialist tyranny if the bill passes in its current form will only make you look like a nutjob to the kind of people who aren't immersed in the debate on a daily basis because they aren't tuned into the hyperbole the politically active always toss around.

- Facts and Figures:  Bone up, make a cheat sheet.  Keep it in your wallet. The odds are that whomever you're debating/persuading won't have one.  Advantage, you.

- Know the opposing arguments. Check out Krugman and Ezra Klein.  Try to picture them in a room with you making those arguments and think about how you might respond.  It's hard to be a persuader when the only material you read reinforces what you already believe.  Consider yourself an advocate.

- Keep townhalling.  Be a good example.  Think of someone in your past who changed your mind on a big issue and act like them.

Most of all, realize that our opponents are Americans who want the best for themselves, their families and the country.  To behave otherwise is unfair, self-aggrandizing and accomplishes nothing but raising your blood pressure.

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Yep, we accomplished phase one

which was to burst the balloon of inevitability and the myth the plan was wildly popular.

And maybe we needed to just get good and angry to do that.

Now we need to stay within the bounds of controlled rage. And its going to mean getting numbers and good questions, not just being nastier and nastier.

More Norman Rockwell, less Abbie Hoffman. 

I do disagree on one point. I do not think it is possible to persuade most Democrats in the House and Senate that government run health care is a bad idea.

On the other hand, fear of electoral defeat is a truly tremendous motivational tool. If the Democrats think this will pass and they will keep their jobs, we've failed.

   

Most Democrats

Well, maybe not most Democrats in Congress, but that isn't needed to stop it.

As for "controlled rage," I don't see that going well.  I see the answer in moving the polls, not getting angry.  Rage plays well to people who agree with you and pretty much nobody else, controlled or not. 

I'm not one to pretend that "Norman Rockwell" is a realistic goal, nor was it ever anything else but an idealization of a system that is far messier that some nice magazine covers make it out to be.  That being said, it's no excuse for the kind of madness we've been seeing. 

The major political changes since WWII were accomplished through quiet dignity and positivity, not screaming and chanting.  In every case, from desegregation to Reagan's tax cuts, the angrier side got crushed.  That's worth remembering.

See McCain/Palin 2008

I agree. When the McCain/Palin crowd got loopy on crazy juice, the campaign suffered. McCain totally lost the message and the message became about the nutters.

I still think we got Mobied on that one...

The nutters seemed to be easily found by the press once the talking point was issued...

On the bigger picture, I think actually the great protest movements were about "controlled rage". Martin Luther King was "why we can't wait". The anti-tax movement a couple of decades ago wasn't genteel, in fact, it looked and sounded a lot like today's conservatives. And the MSM described the 1994 eledtion as a "temper tantrum" by "angry white men". 

The point is that we need composure as well as confrontation.  I've always made a point even using a screen name not to rant in a fashion my neighbors would be embarrassed to read about in the local weekly. My neighbors might disagree with me calling Dodd a fraud or a socialist, but think that's in bounds.  Calling politicians commies or fascists, well, no.     

Aah, but what of 1994?

Anger is a sign of loss of control and lack of discipline.  It is a sign of helplessness and confusion.  We all know angry people.  Whether or not they are right to be pissed off at any given situation, do you respect the angry people in your life more or less because they are angry?

The media did describe the 1994 election as a "temper tantrum," but what did it get us?  We had a government shutdown, some symbolic legislation and not much else - the size of government didn't decline, taxes didn't go down and Clinton got re-elected.  Welfare reform, perhaps the only real victory of that era, came at a time when the people who were yelling and screaming loudest were the Al Sharptons and SEIUers.  There was some nasty anti-tax rhetoric in the late 70s and early 80s, but the most thorough reforms came with the help of... Bill Bradley.  Boring, but it got the job done.

As for the civil rights movement, anger may have seethed inside (and with good reason too!) but the comparison to be made by the average observer/voter was that of well-dressed people trying to eat lunch, go to school or cross a bridge vs. police thuggery and angry reactionaries throwing trash at children going to class.

The average voter, the kind of person who reads the paper most days and not much more, sees two groups.  One is represented by Obama, who is always cool as a cucumber.  The other one is a bunch of angry people (of course, the lack of a go-to guy on this issue is a whole other story).  With only a superficial grasp of the issues, who would our average voter prefer identifying with?  What are the optics?

tdawg...

....I have misgivings about this "tantrum" tactic but I have different reasons.  Unlike you, I've no trust for die-hard democrats and don't consider them just like me.  Now there are some who voted democrat who are now regretting it but I don't have much respect for them either.  It was obvious who this guy was.   They won't  "jump my battery". 

But my problems w/this "uprising" is that some of the heavy hitters like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and others are sending these little old ladies and other retirees out to fight their battles for them. Possibly putting these seniors in harms way.  Looks like thats the case now.  I find this disgraceful.  Limbaugh and the other conservative talkers should be kicking the GOP in the butt much more than they're doing and getting it back on a winning course.  Like a good coach.  But they're not.  Instead they're taking the path of least resistance by continuously telling us what we already know about the Constitution-hating democrats.  And they're letting their golf buddies in the GOP off scott-free.  I find it disgusting that they'll now encourage these little Grandma's etc to go out and confront Obama's union thugs.  Why aren't they out there?  No, they're comfy in their opulence watching it on their big screens.  DD

So you're saying...

...that you don't have any D friends? D relatives?  Not a one?  Do you stop talking to them once you find out who they voted for (assuming they haven't apologized, apparently)?  

What you need is a little perspective.

A blue state analog

Obama= David Dinkins.

Cool, reserved, politically correct and perceived as an utter failure

He got ousted by the rather "hot" Rudy Giuliani

BTW, in CT I"m surrounded by hard core Democrats. Sadly, they see the light around here only in Governor's races. But misguided does not equal evil.  And while we may not flip rank-and-file Democrats, we can weaken their interest in enacting the party agenda if they think it's either controversial or foolish. Note the normal Democrat pitch of claiming "the experts all agree" and "this is a mainstream, popular idea".  The moment their voters think it really isn't, they don;t answer the bell. 

I just don;t think the average Democrat Congressman is persueable on issues they care about. We can only put the fear of ( add appropriate deity) into them not to vote for utter stupidity.

 

 

You know, tdawg, this advice would be better aimed if you...

...sent it to the White House or the political hacks in policy positions in the West Wing... or to the hacks on Dem Congressional staffs where people like NancyBoToxPelosi are mirror images of the bitch herself. Or maybe you could advise MSM leaders like Andrea Mitchell over at MSNBC when she recently complained that opposition to the Great Obama's health care package should be discounted because "... those people just don't know what's good for them".

We're now back to clinging to our guns, God and bitterness.  Pity our wrath.

Sorry, I hope the TownHallers and Tea Party goers stay angry and voice that anger over and over until fat cat Congressional Dems stop holding faux townhall meetings.  I hope somone starts heckling Obama and Michelle on their "taxpayer funded dates".  I hope each staged media event of Obama's is met with loud, racuous protests where the chanting outside the event can be heard inside the event venue... and that it screams intimidation to those inside.

I hope that a permanent collection of protesters play the same card on this issue that the farLeft blacks played on South African divestiture... protest at the homes of Congressional leaders... protest at the home of the DNC chair, the DNC members, the pollsters' homes, the homes of MSM-Obama sympathesizers who don't report the news accurately.  Get arrested.  Draw attention.  Make a point.  Get the video.

Anger is a potent force for change.  And it that doesn't get it, intimidate the speakers.  Heckle them.  Toss eggs. Storm the stage, make them lose their venue and audience.  Anger, issues, activism and press for momentary advantage.  Go home.  Repeat tomorrow.

As for your nonsense about "don't you know someone who is a D"... well, you can take that advice and write it down on a sheet of paper and shove it up your butt, tdawg.

If I knew of someone in my family who voted for Obama and Biden, I'd be ashamed of them.  And then I'd spend each holiday gathering gently reminding them of the error of their ways and I'd keep making them regret their vote. 

America and our kid's future means a lot more to some of us than it does to people like you... who seem to be looking for some relief now that YOU are in the frying pan and fire.  Sorry, you earned the heat.  Take it like a man.  And that anger we direct toward dickwads like you, you can forgive us when we take back the Congress and WH.  All's fair in politics and love, baby.

The love is still there for...

...friends and family, true. And my fellow human beings.  Can't deny that. But its "tuff love".  At arms length. The level of respect for their judgment drops like a rock. Especially for the adults.   After all, look what they've done to our nation.  They've damaged my children's future.  Hard to forgive them for that even though I know its my Christian duty to do so.  But don't ask me to get all bubbly with emotion and sloppy, phony sentimentality if they come around.  That is not part of my Christian duty.    

Forgiveness doesn't include waxing over and ignoring bad, destructive behavior.  And that is exactly what support of the modern democrat party is - bad behavior.  Lets not be in denial about that, ok tdawg?  DD