Obama and Live Infants

Very late last night, I engaged in a back-and-forth with a poster named "truthynesslover" on the matter of Barack Obama's record in the Illinois legislature with regard to abortion.  It was a remarkable exchange in that, once we got to the very nub of the issue, "truthynesslover" went on a posting posting spree that lasted just long enough to knock the important part of the exchange off the front page sidebar.  Rather than engage further on this particular topic, "truthyness" seemed to prefer posting several cut n' pasted passages from the 9/11 commission report.

In that light, I just wanted to document the exchange once again, and you'll note precisely where it stopped:

Man, truthy. . .

Submitted by Walt Gilbert on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 22:16.

. . .I hate to step on your triumphalism, but the fact is, we started out talking about how Obama doesn't seem to mind letting babies die in agony as long as it pleases NARAL, and ended up talking about Dick Cheney saying there were meetings between Mohammed Atta and the Hussein regime -- which is true -- and you feel like you won?

If that's the case, I bow to your superior skills.

wedge issue lie

Submitted by truthynesslover on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 22:37.

Before SB1093 in 2001 was even proposed the illinois Abortion Law of 1975 stated: (720 ILCS 510/6) (2) (a) No abortion shall be performed or induced when the fetus is viable unless there is in attendance a physician other than the physician performing or inducing the abortion who shall take control of and provide immediate medical care for any child born alive as a result of the abortion. and it also stated: (720 ILCS 510/6) (2) (b) Subsequent to the abortion, if a child is born alive, the physician required by Section 6(2)(a) to be in attendance shall exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion. Any such physician who intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly violates Section 6(2)(b) commits a Class 3 felony. I'm sure you can see the purely political reason why career Republican Jim Ryan refused to protect the babies that were clearly already protected under Illinois law - he was setting the stage for some partisan political theater on the legislature floor. Oh and as you should know SB1093 passed with the previously mentioned 'poison pill' paragraph removed. Do you people enjoy being played?

S'cuse me, genius. . .

Submitted by Walt Gilbert on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 23:00.

. . .but, just because an infant isn't viable doesn't mean it can't experience pain.

That was the point at which "truthynesslover" declined to discuss the matter any further and launched into the 9/11 commission/Dick Cheney/Halliburton posting orgy.  Now, I don't know who "truthynesslover" is, but it seems clear to me that he or she, much like the Obama campaign, isn't interested in hashing out the Infants Born Alive issue in a public forum.

I'll leave speculation as to why that is to the reader.