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Hatin' On the GOP, The National Council for a New America and YOU
Listen up conservatives, time to soften that spine just a tiny bit.
Yeah. I'm as mad at the GOP as you are -- then again I have been for a long time, not just lately. So, in the hope that something good could come of our losses, I listened in on Eric Cantor's conference call launching the National Council for a New America (NCNA) project and you all saw my immediate report. I patiently listened to Representative Eric Cantor and Senator John McCain and heard the vague overview, I took note of the names that were attached to the project, and I realized the import of the five basic issues that they wanted to address. And I just knew what the first reaction to the idea would be. Certainly, I was not disappointed.
One commenter on my piece reflected what seems to be the most common reaction: "If John McCain is in, I'm out." The same sentiment was expressed about Romney, but to a lesser degree. And I've heard this dozens of times over the few days since my report. That and much more, and scarce little of it has been complimentary.
As I said, I feel your pain.
Granted my work appears most often on conservative sites because, after all, I write from the conservative viewpoint. So, it is to be expected that John McCain would bring out the beast in my readers. We all know that it is McCain that thrills in repeatedly sticking his finger in the eye of every conservative in the country, not to mention the poor campaign he ran. If he expects all to be forgiven, he's got another think coming.
Oh, I could lay out all the conservative objections to Mitt Romney, McCain, or a few of the other names currently connected with the project, for sure. But is there any value in doing so? In fact, is there any value in turning away from this idea without giving it any chance at all like so many are vowing to do?
Until something actually happens with this effort, I am going to have to say no, there is no value in not giving it a chance. In fact, I am going to have to say that we should encourage the conservative members of the effort to stick with the thing regardless. And we should not attack them for doing so, either. Yes, even if this thing turns into just another example of Romney flip-flopping or McCain eye poking we should support the conservative members of the thing and encourage them to stick it out.
Now before you get your conservative spine stiffened, or your conservative spleen all in an uproar, I am decidedly not saying we should support any mushy moderate, non-conservative ideas that might be expressed in this effort. What I am saying is that we should push the members of this thing that are conservative to speak up and not to allow themselves and their conservative ideas to fade into the background. I am saying we should stick with this thing and push the conservative message to be heard here.
Many of you will throw your hands up and say we should not even entertain any effort that allows the mushy moderates to have a forum. When it comes to debates on the floor of Congress, when it comes to crafting legislation, when it comes to pushing the conservative message, I am with you there. In those areas we should work hard to push our important principles.
But, here is the thing: If we leave the discussion to the moderates, will it be any surprise if our voice is ignored? In fact, if I were a moderate, I'd be happy if the conservative voice would walk away from the debate and give me the floor! Well, that is what we will be doing if we decide not to participate with the NCNA project. We will be giving the moderates the floor free and clear of any of our own ideas. And that would be a silly thing to do, don’t you think?
We need to remember one important point with this NCNA effort, folks. This national discussion IS the arena of ideas. It IS a debate. It IS a discussion. If we don't participate at all, whose fault will it be if our ideas never get a fair hearing? It sure won't be the moderate's fault, it won't be the Democrat's fault, it also won't be John McCain's fault. If our ideas never get brought into the discussion it will be OUR fault for abandoning the field of battle for our safe, conservative enclave.
Also, do not expect this NCNA effort to be a conservative effort. It is a Republican discussion with America, not a strictly conservative effort and it isn't meant to be a singularly conservative effort. Granted, none of us on the conservative side like it, but the simple truth is that there are many moderates in the GOP and they have every right to have their voice heard during this national discussion.
Let’s take some stock of ourselves and this effort, shall we? Think about yourselves for a minute here. How often do you consider yourself a Republican? My guess is that you consider yourself an American first, a conservative second and a Republican by default. So, now place yourself in context with this NCNA discussion and ask yourself a question: if you don't consider yourself a Republican, why, exactly, should the NCNA cater only to your side of the issues?
You see, if the folks at the NCNA see that you have no real loyalty to the GOP and that you are going to walk away from this effort merely because you don't like a few of the personalities included in the discussion, why should they bother with you? Were I them, I’d say good riddance to you.
Lastly, the NCNA is being called a discussion with America. This means that they are purposefully searching out the moderate's opinions here. Moderates are being included by design (hence the inclusion of Romney and McCain). Like I said, this is not a conservative effort, it is a discussion seeking to hear from all corners of the country.
The final analysis here is that if we eschew this effort, if we walk away, we will be excluding our voice from the debate. We must stick through this thing and fight to get our ideas included in it by consistently urging the conservatives involved to speak our viewpoint. This does not mean that we have to accept the moderate voice, this does not mean that participation is bowing to their wrongheaded views, and joining this debate does not mean that we are turning against our own principles.
It means that we are proudly taking our rightful seat at the table and having our voice heard by the citizens of the nation. After all, should we be so stupid as to prevent the nation from hearing our important viewpoint by not bothering to speak up in a national forum?
Walking away would be self-destructive. It's just that simple.
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Comments
Let them eat cake.
Nobody is suggesting we stop this group from spewing forth its failed political message, nor should they.
What I am saying is for over thirty years now -- my whole political life in fact, and yours too, probably -- fiscal conservatives have been calling for less government, less taxes and more liberty as our most cherished principle of governance. This political axiom is even more relevant today than it was thirty years ago. Is it any wonder then this is precisely the true grassroot political message now being shouted out at every tea party, be they Republicans, Democrats, or independents, and yet these guys seem not to have heard this simple message. Or perhaps they did hear it and it is precisely because of the raising message of the grassroot tea party movement, this group now has seen fit to form and counter with a message more closely fitting their own Corporate America political agenda.
Once again, Mr. Huston, I agree with you: Let these people speak out, at least it will show us how far they are willing to stand against the grassroot message of less government, less taxes and more liberty. And I might further suggest, if this NCNA group wants to listen to "the people" they need go no further than their next tea party -- not up front on the speaker's podium, mind you, but in the crowd, and listen to a leader who has heard America's real message and who is willing to stand up for that message.
ex animo
davidfarrar
if right-wingers want to participate
Then the NCNA should set aside some "Free Speech Zones" for them about 5 blocks away from where they are actually meeting.
let it fail.
My analysis is this is a big coverup,they should call this airbrush tour,coz this is what it is.The real reform would be all the gop senators and reps letting this party fold chapter 7 or 11,its sick to the core,the cancer has spread to all the vital organs and trying to play pretend is only going to prolong the pain,look at chrysler all that bailout money and still filled for chapter 11.I doubt the gop be so lucky as to get a bailout.
Big Tent
Liberal ToddLuvsLounging says:
That's an interesting comment. I feel that liberals once believed in the same order: American first, liberal second and Democrat third. However, after nearly 30 years of a general conservative era, liberals have changed the order to: American first, Democrat second and liberal third.
I don't know how I'd feel if liberals made up 70% of the party, but liberals don't and it turned out to be politically advantageous for elections. Thus, the conundrum the Republicans find themselves in. How to expand the party by appealing to moderates without losing the base. So far, the base has such a dislike for moderates right now, I don't see modernization occurring for a few election cycles.
One of the reasons
One of the reasons that liberal has fallen to third place is because liberalism has proven to be a failed, un-American concept. On the other hand, conservatism has not found the same corresponding proof to the opposite end of the spectrum. In fact, most Americans are more conservative than they even realize.
Social Security is a Failure and Un-American?
I disagree with the notion that liberalism is a failed concept. Liberal programs and laws are now ingrained in the American fabric: Social Security, Medicare, Civil Rights, etc, etc. Liberal priorities, such as universal health care and the environment are about to be enacted. Liberalism is the driving force within the Democratic party. While Blue Dog Democratic often block liberal's goals, they also lessen liberal's excess. Well, I hope it works that way.
On the other hand, conservatism key principles of de-regulation and social conservatism are being eroded everyday. Though every conservative blogs denies that George W. Bush was a conservative or the GOP lead Congress was conservative, the American people views the recent failures as conservative failures. Even so, 30% of Americans will always describe themselves as conservatives.
I believe conservatives will always be at the 30% level. When that questioned is asked, I feel Americans' answer always reflect their personal conduct more than their political inclination. How else to explain Obama getting 20% of the conservative vote in 2008. However, Americans are more moderate and liberal when asked specific policy questions. Americans want stuff done. And the party of de-regulation and smaller government has been seen as a failure.
Forget the rhetoric, where's the revenue
Social Security and Medicare are quickly going broke. What , perchance are the liberal solutions to those problems?. Guess maybe it was more fun to have Republicans around to blame
Revenue
Raise upper margin tax to the level in the 90's. Means test Social Security. Medicare is going to be tough. Lot's of tough decisions.
No, it wasn't fun. It's not fun to point out America's problem caused by conservatism.
so much for "middle class tax cuts"
They raised taxes in the 1980's for social security. We're back where we started.
Ronnie Dealing With Tipper
It was a good deal and fixed the problem for at least forty years.
Most conservatives treat Reagan as the President who slayed communism, government and liberals. He bargained with the communists. Actually grew government, but didn't pay for it (defense-oriented Keynesian, pretty good stimulus, except Reagan never turned off the tap). And made deals with the liberals so he could govern. A pretty good pragmatist.
tough medicine
Why? What are the tough decisions in your view?
Rationing
The biggest problem of Medicare is its cost. What will happen when Medicare is folded into universal health care plan. Or is Obama planning on keeping Medicare separate? I'm concerned if Medicare is kept separate, how do you keep cost down while having two separate systems? I'm worried if cost spiral out of control than rationing will have to be discussed. Politically, if Medicare is folded into universal health care and senior's treatment is delayed or removed, then it will be a disaster for Democrats.
The political aim of fiscal conservatives...
...within the Republican Party is not to expand the party by "appealing" to moderates, but to "convert" moderates to fiscal conservatism as the best way to protect this country's future and their own. Once you see this as a "conversion", the problem you state with the party's base goes away.
The real problem we face with the Republican Party is with the corporate wing of the party, pursuing its own political interests at the expense of fiscal conservatism, resulting in our party's recent political losses. This is the objective of the NCNA, to form a "moderate" political coalition by "appealing" to moderates, while actually pursuing their own corporate political agenda (to achieve political power at any cost, by any means, by any measure). Brilliant!
ex animo
davidfarrar
Couldn't agree more
"The real problem we face with the Republican Party is with the corporate wing of the party, pursuing its own political interests at the expense of fiscal conservatism..."
Hear, hear.
This political divide can be easily seen in the contest...
...presently taking shape in Florida's senatorial race, with Marco Rubio formally announcing his candidacy today, with Gov. Crists soon to follow.
While both of these candidates are excellent Republican choices, Crists has sold his political soul to Corporate America, while Rubio, times being what they are, has firmly taken a stand against Obama's print and spend credo. Crists would easily fit in at any NCNA meeting, while Rubio would have them all meet at the next tea party.
But make no mistake about it, these two Republicans are representing the actual ideological battle presently being waged within the Republican Party itself between the corporate elite of the party and its grassroot members.
Mr. Huston, I bow in respect to your political wisdom, and thank you for it. Truth has no need of demagoguery.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Conservative pols are ALWAYS beholden to corporations
Conservatives stll believe theirs is the only philosophy of the republican party. It's why you're on the fringes, just like '64. There's no deal to made with an untapped voting block, like the Christian Right in the '80s. You've got your base and nobody's coming in waves to put you in the majority that the Christian Right provided conservatives.
When were conservative politicians not beholden to corporate interests? They always were and it started under Reagan. They're never giving that up. Reagan, H.W., and W all talked about fiscal conservatism; it was just a ruse to get middle class people to vote for them as they steadily went about destroying the middle class safety net and provide one for corporations and special interests who provided them with campaign donation largesse.
The last fiscally conservative republican president was Ike. That also included a high marginal tax rate for the top 1%. The sooner conservatives wake up and realize what they've been voting for is the expanse of corporate power, the better. Maybe you'll actually nominate a true fiscal conservative.
But he'd be honest and tell you that if you're worried about debt, that cutting anymore taxes is a non-starter. And that you have to cut back on the military industrial complex, subsidies for corporations, and tax shelters that allow multinational companies the ability to pay no income tax.
Or a "she".
With the exception of cutting the military, I would agree. But, frankly, I don't think either the Democratic Party, beholding to its unions, or the Republican Party, controlled by its corporate elite, are politically interested in "STOPPING THE SPENDING". Neither are interested in changing our tax code, which will have to be done before any significant reduction in government spending can even be contemplated. I also believe runaway government spending will not be brought under control until the power to print money, which taxes us all without our vote, and the power of deficit spending can be taken out of the hands of the executive branch alone is somehow accomplished.
I was recently reading an article about some recent polling that indicated the number of people calling themselves Republican has decreased from 35% to 21%. However, the number of people who think of themselves as fiscal conservatives is at about 60%. So the problem is with the Republican Party, not with fiscal conservatism. As I have said before, if the corporate wing of the party, which the NCNA certainly represents, wants to win elections again, it should focus of giving the grassroots of the party their voice; allow them all to speak and to be accurately heard. Only when the authentic voice of the people is heard can things begin to change. This, too, is the lesson Obama's supporters are now in the process of learning.
But, again, nobody, including the NCNA, has a political interest in actually allowing the people to speak, much less to be heard.
ex animo
davidfarrar
Good news! Cantor has recanted!
Whew! That was a close one ... for a few days there, some in the GOP were actually threatening to listen to a spectrum of viewpoints.
Question for the strategists here: How many times will it take for Cantor, et. al, to learn that they should run their ideas by Rush before they state them in public? They expose themselves as clueless or spineless when they are repeatedly forced to walk back any hint of independence after Rush calls them on the carpet. They don't strike me as quick studies.
Rush Limbaugh is only one fiscal conservative voice...
...calling out from the political wilderness to STOP THE SPENDING. It's not a new message. This is the message that grassroot fiscal conservatives have been calling out to be heard for the past thirty years now. It is the message fiscal conservatives have carried with them in their pockets as they drove passed the voting booth for the last two elections, and still await a leader to carry it forward. And it is the message we will henceforth demand our elected representatives uphold while in office.
The silliness of this NCNA group is that they seemed to be fighting over the deck chairs of the Titanic, when they should have been announcing the date of their own Tea Party, or perhaps their support of Ron Paul's HR 1207 bill, calling for an audit of the Federal Reserve, instead of acting like "me-too" Republicans from the New Deal era.
ex animo
davidfarrar
If any of the NCNA members have a real interest...
...in attending an authentic Tea Party, to, you know, "listen to the people", I will gladly extend to them an invitation to attend the one now being planned to be held in Rome, Georgia on the 4th of July. I can assure you, you can't get much closer to the grassroot than here.
ex animo
davidfarrar
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