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Obama's Tax 'Credit': Old People and Families Hardest Hit
That tax "credit" may cost you next April!
President Obama was praised by the Old Media as the savior of the American taxpayer when he announced in his magnanimity that he was going to give a tax break to "95 percent" of America's taxpayers. He was hailed as the hero of the working man when he said that a "tax credit" would be given to taxpayers and that this much needed "extra" money would soon be seen in their weekly paychecks. But now comes word that Obama's IRS is going to want some of that "tax credit" back from an unknown number of taxpayers next year.
It will come as a shock to two income families, some federal workers, retirees, and young people with more than one low paying job that they will be expected to give back some portion of that "extra" money that Obama claimed he was giving them come April 15, 2010.
The Associated Press is now reporting something that insiders knew all along but it was a story that wasn't getting any traction during the debate about the Obammessiah's loving gift to his people. Turns out it ain't free. At lest it won't be for many Americans.
At-risk taxpayers include a broad swath of the public: married couples in which both spouses work; workers with more than one job; retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from their pension payments and Social Security recipients with jobs that provide taxable income.
Where was this warning when the media was hailing Obama as the most caring father to ever hit the nation's capitol?
As it happens the tax tables that the IRS use to compute tax bills does not take Obama's gift into account. And the result is confusion as well as shock for untold numbers of Americans that will owe taxes at the end of the year when they didn't think they would. This bill will come due if you aren't careful calculating your withholdings.
--A single worker with two jobs making $20,000 a year at each job will get a $400 boost in take-home pay at each of them, for a total of $800. That worker, however, is eligible for a maximum credit of $400, so the remaining $400 will have to be paid back at tax time -- either through a smaller refund or a payment to the IRS.
The IRS recognized there could be a similar problem for married couples if both spouses work, so it adjusted the withholding tables. The fix, however, was imperfect.
-- A married couple with a combined income of $50,000 is eligible for an $800 credit. However, if both spouses work and make more than $13,000, the new withholding tables give them each a $600 boost -- for a total of $1,200.
There were 33 million married couples in 2008 in which both spouses worked. That's 55 percent of all married couples, according to the Census Bureau.
-- A single college student with a part-time job making $10,000 would get a $400 boost in pay. However, if that student is claimed as a dependent on a parent's tax return, she doesn't qualify for the credit and would have to repay it when she files next year.
Some retirees face even bigger headaches.
The Social Security Administration is sending out $250 payments to more than 50 million retirees in May as part of the economic stimulus package. The payments will go to people who receive Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, railroad retirement benefits or veteran's disability benefits.
The payments are meant to provide a boost for people who don't qualify for the tax credit. However, they will go to retirees even if they have earned income and receive the credit. Those retirees will have the $250 payment deducted from their tax credit -- but not until they file their tax returns next year, long after the money may have been spent.
Retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from pension benefits also are getting an income boost as a result of the new withholding tables. However, pension benefits are not earned income, so they don't qualify for the tax credit. That money will have to paid back next year when tax returns are filed.
More than 20 million retirees and survivors receive payments from defined benefit pension plans, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute. However, it is unclear how many have federal taxes withheld from their payments.
If you are curious what effect this might have on your taxes, you can use the IRS withholding calculator to work it out. (http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id96196,00.html)
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Ah, the party of unintended consequences
But you have to consider that Obama had good intent, and thats what he should be judged on.
I'm sure people will remember that as they get their checkbooks out next spring.
tax table trickery
Oh yeah. People are going to be pissed off next April when folks who have gotten a refund for years now suddenly won't be getting one because of Obama's trickery with the tax tables. But I think there is a lesson here for us conservatives. The next time we get to cut taxes, we should think about altering the withholding tables at the same time. Not in this bungled way, but in a smart way. Because this is the tax cut that people actually see, and they see it every single payday, rather than seeing it once on April 15 every year, where you hope people don't confuse a tax refund with a tax cut.
The return
Oh yeah! Conservatism making a comeback! Midterm victories gauranteed!
Nah, not really.
you are right skayne
The GOP is done. Finished. I wouldn't worry about them. Go back to your cubicle. Nothing to see here.
u can say that about conservatism too
Conservatisms finished too, in it's current form. That's all you have left in the GOP. That's why the party's shrunken.
Great analysis
You are spot on as always. The GOP has never had a lower party identification number, have they? (hint: you may want to look that up)
forget party id
Forget party id. It's just simple demographics. It's why your personal nirvana of people finally turning on Obama is never going to happen. You giggle with anticipation at anything you hope will bring Obama down.
You can't wait for people to open the checkbooks next April. I can't wait until reality hits you next Nov and in 4 years.
Nah, I just enjoy the liberal
Nah, I just enjoy the liberal mindset. With the White House, the House, and the Senate in democrat control, the anger still mounts. Angry, angry liberals. Even when they win.Cracks me up.
You are wrong (shouldn't suprise you). I have said many times that if Obama's programs are a success, I will vote for him in 2012. You see skayne, unlike you, I am pulling for this country to succeed.
But, predictions of the complete demise of one party or the other in perpetuity are so immature and boring. I mean really, you should take a little time to see how many times in the past 70 years the proclaimation of the death of one party or the other has been made.
You are a fool if you really think the things you spew here are true. History supports me on that.
Lonestar, as much as I hope the current republican
party collapses and burns -- it's because I do believe that there needs to be a functioning minority party -- and the republicans ain't doin' the job (though I must say I'm growing more and more fond of Lindsay Graham, of all people.) I'm not here to gloat, I'm here to help.
I'm not angry, really. I like laughing at the republicans' ability to box themselves into a little corner to gain some momentary illusory advantage.
Liberals do not control the Senate... but you knew that. ;-)
i know history
Please, you giggle with anticipation with everything you think is going to sink Obama. Your statement in the first post is no example of rooting for Obama to succeed for the country to succeed.
I know my history. What got republicans a majority was the infusion of Dixiecrats and neocons from the Democratic party to Republican party in the '70s. The proclomations of the repub demise was made right before the democratic split. In the '80s the deal made with the Christian right brought a majority that lasted until now. That base has stagnated. The dem base is now different, and continually growing.
Like I said before, I am under no illusions that conservatives can't fool people with their economic drivel. But as the GOP currently emphasizes the culture war politics, this current form of conservatism is over. Demographics demand it. The GOP needs to divorce themselves from culture war politics, that means the christian right. Until then, forget about it.
The minute they have the courage to do that, then they will make a comeback as a new party.
You know nothing
The culture war is being launched by Team Obama. Rich VS Poor.
Populist anger at the "haves".
My first comment was about a specific blunder that the administration has made. They will be admitting the mistake and working to correct it long before you admit they are capable of making a mistake. Which is really pathetic.
all I ask for is competency.
when I see someone who breaks one company, getting a plum CEO job at the next one (chrysler) -- I am annoyed.
I know a guy who made a pretty penny in charitable donations, by finding everyone who heard "folks making above $250,000 a year will see their taxes go up" and who thought "I'd better get my money down below that, so I don't get taxed".
the rich have been getting stupider and more entitled by the year.
Are you in favor of a pyrimidal society? I think the Rich have been winning the culture war, mostly by tricking Conservatives into believing in "upward mobility" that doesn't exist. The middle class begins at $250,000 and goes up from there. Given that, there isn't much upward mobility at all.
learn your terms
"The culture war is being launched by Team Obama. Rich VS Poor."
I love how you like to pose a dissenting opinion while denigrating the other as a lack of knowledge when you can't even get your terms straight.
The "culture war" was launched against secularism in the 80s by the Moral Majority, who reached political ascendancy in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush. The catastrophic political failures of that administration along with its overreach on social issues has pretty much ended the culture war -- in favor of the secularists.
"Rich vs. Poor" is class warfare and really wasn't much of a war until Karl Marx empowered the working masses in Europe with his Communist Manifesto. Hell, it's the first sentence of his book.
The "culture war" is not over
The "culture war" is not over and was not limited to the origin you define. There are many books being wriiten today about the ongoing "culture war". Do you think the gay community is convinced the culture war is over? Won by the secularists? Your staement is ludoicrous.
Culture warefare is a form of class warfare. Which you would see if you used my entire comment:
no, no it's really not.
just as the Rich Southerners pitted poor blacks and whites against each other for jobs (catch the Al-Jazeera report!), culture warfare pits the Rural against the Urban.
"They think they're better'n' you"
They're the volvodriving sissies.
They want to talk about organic arugula with farmers (who grow the stuff, mind).
Culture warfare is a timehonored tradition, going back to Pogroms, where the rich Poles let the poor poles burn out the jews. Again and Again.
it's over
The conservative leader of the SC says that Roe v. Wade is settled case law. SSM is being legalized in more and more states. Young, liberal justices are going to be appointed by a filibuster-proof majority over the next 4 years. The non-religious in the USA are now 15% of the population, representing the largest-growing group in the ARIS survey.
Also, the evangelical base is now seen as a political liability to the GOP, not a strength.
By all rational measures, it is over. Maybe you are hoping for back-to-back grand slams with two outs in the bottom of the 9th, but it ain't going to happen.
Say goodnight, Gracie.
Tell Wal-Mart "its over"
When the biggest retailer in the world says "F-you" to people like you and your "Political Correctness", you know the war is not over.
Lost that one, 'eh Gracie?
Do you ever read the shit you write? Really?
lol
Only an idiot would think that the controversy over "Happy Holidays" is part of the culture war.
No one gave a crap about "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas" for 50 years. The fact that you swallowed the manufactured outrage about the "War on Christmas" says a lot about your malfunctioning bullshit detector.
How many books by Bill O'Reilly have you purchased?
Tell Miss California "its over"
Really, a lot of people haven't heard the war is over. They still express other opinions.
I can only take O'Reilly in small doses. I bought one of his books years ago and didn't like it. Its premise was that America was based on classes, and where you were born was essentially what molded your view points. I thought it was a load of crap.
It's only clown conservatives
It's only clown conservatives that don't realize the war has been on the middle class since Reagan got in office. The middle class works longer, produces more, makes less money, and the money they make buys less of the things they saw their grandparents and parents achieve through hard work.
It's only clown conservatives who accuse Dems of being reckless spenders when about 90% of the debt was accumulated under conservative presidents.
It's only clown conservatives that like a health care system that charges more, covers less, and is less efficient.
It's only clown conservatives who don't realize that regressive taxes have gone up under conservative presidents while progressive taxes come down.
It's only clown conservatives that complain about social welfare and ignore the billions more wasted on corporate welfare.
It's only idiot conservatives who refuse to see objective people heard all of these arguments made during the election. They voted for Obama. You're in the minority, and you look for any glimmer of hope that the country will come to back to your ridiculous way of thinking.
I don't agree with Obama on everything, nor think he doesn't make mistakes. What i'm tired of is idiot conservatives who think trying to harp on any little mistake is going to get them back in power.
You want to get back in power so bad, your party needs to divorce themselves from the culture wars. They need to look at themselves and fix their way of doing things. The people believe Obama's way is better.
You must have graduated from Clown College
Actually, hours are down and leisure is up. You are able to buy less than your grandparents? You live here? In the United States?
You have any credible sources to back up these claims?
No need
I'm not trying to prove anything to you. All the proof in the world couldn't satisfy you. Just keep expecting that everybody else is going to see what a mistake they made voting Obama in.
After two terms and a bigger majority in the senate, you'll still be hoping.
Do you remember Watergate?
The republican party was dead. A popular new democrat president was elected . . .and the rest is as they say, history. 4 years is a long time, 8 years is a long time.
And I'm not saying the same thing will happen again , especially not in 4 years.. But there is a cycle. It will be interesting to watch.
I think I said democrats control the senate.