What is, or should be, the proper role of the RNC?

Promoted. I don't think we disagree here. The RNC's job is to win elections... be they in 2010, 2012, 2016 and beyond. That will require long-term party building. The difference is between people who think the RNC is an electoral / party-building institution vs. those who think it should be a policy institution. -Patrick

Patrick Ruffini, whom I generally respect, made a statement in his post regarding questions for candidates for RNC Chairman that cries out for full discussion.  According to Patrick:

The RNC's job is to win elections -- period.

That viewpoint is at the heart of our current problems.  There are three national Republican Committees (RNC, NRCC and RSC) precisely to allow the NRCC and the RSC to focus on winning elections while the RNC takes the more long term view of how to build and maintain the party on the national level and assist the state and county parties to do the same within their jurisdictions.  Unfortunately, every time we have a Republcian in the White House, they quickly install an RNC chairman who morphs the organization into the reelection arm of the administration during the first term and a backwater during the second. 

One of the very few silver linings in November's results is that we now have the opportunity to return the RNC to its proper role as the national committee with the broadest range of interests and the only one that can afford to look beyond the next election.

I would suggest looking to Bill Brock as the standard for what an RNC chairman should be.  He came in after the very acrimoneous 1976 elections, helped to heal a badly divided party, focused the RNC staff on maximizing new technology, stregnthend the auxillary organizations (particularly the College Republicans),  and did more to assist state and local party organizations than any RNC chairman before or since.

Yes, he paid close attention to winning elections; but he paid closer attention to building bridges between Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan Republicans.  He insisted that every group or organization willing to support Republican Candidates in the general election should have a voice during primaries and caucuses.  All should be heard, none should have a veto and intraparty divisions should be resolved amicably and quickly to ensure party unity in November.

People tend to forget the Rebulican party almost came to an end after 1976.  We had just come through Watergate, a divisive contested Presidnential nomination and a general election where many people believed Reagan declined to support Ford in order to bolster his own chances for 1980.  The level of disgust, disapointment and despair among party supporters exceeded even what we see today.  As a Pennsylvania College Rpeublican leader, I witnessed more than one outright fist fight between Ford and Reagan supporters.  Many of our CR members seriously questioned whether they would be more comfortable supporting conservative Democrats than staying with the Republicans.  More than a few of them left the Republican party and never came back.

Bill Brock became RNC chairman in the midst of all this and worked a quiet miracle of party reunification.  History may have given Reagan credit for restoring the Republicans to the White House with his Reagan Democrats; but the only reasont there was a Republican party left to restore was because Bill Brock took a long term view of party building and did the hard work to make it happen.  We need an RNC chairman today who will do the same.

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Well stated.

However, I would like to point out, things are not as they were in 1976. The Internet has changed the playing field and must be taken into account. We must have a party that will allow its party members a voice, allow them to speak, and to be accurately be heard if the party, itself, is to stay relevant in the Age of the Internet.

Look what Obama's Internet use has done to the Democratic Party. They don't know it yet, but their party is irrelevant to Obama's online millions. Is this the same fate of the Republican Party when we too have a Republican online champion?

ex animo

davidfarrar

Every generation thinks thier technology is special

Yes the internet is changing the playing field but not as much as some previous "new" technologies.  Targeted direct mail and phone banks were at about the same stage in 1976 as the internet is today and they devesated previous party structures.  Candidates were able to cut themselves loose from precinct, ward and county parties and go their own way.  Many local party organizations withered and died because candidates found it easier to hire a direct mail fundraiser than deal with the party elders.

To be honest, our grassroots organizations never have recovered from this hammerblow. Which is one of the major reasons we have become so dependent on top down leadership.  Media wins elections, money buys media and the DC operatives can raise more money with one direct mail piece than most local parties raise all year.  A sad but true fact of life that even Bill Brock's best efforts could not overcome.

 

Perhaps I haven't made myself clear...

...if the party fails to restructure itself in order to take advantage of the communicative power of the Internet to, in a sense, re-empower the precinct leaders, the ward and county parties, the hammer-blow to which you speak will become a death knell for political parties themselves, leaving only the Internet empowered candidates to lead the way.

As I have mentioned before, this needn't be the case. Political parties have an advantage over political candidates, they are entities of continuous existence -- they are around longer than political candidates. Political parties, if properly executed, can build up a far larger and stronger membership base than any political candidate over a longer period of time. Without this Internet empowered base acting as a counterbalance, the electorate will fall prey to the Piped Piper affect the Internet will have on our political system rather than allowing it to reap the benefits of the wisdom of the crowds through its proper use within political parties.

As proof to what I am saying one needs only look at  the Democratic Party and its relevance to the Obama win. Please, I implor you, take a good look and ask yourself is that where you want the Republican Party to end up?

ex animo

davidfarrar

Very astute observation

@WoodbridgeVA: "To be honest, our grassroots organizations never have recovered from this hammerblow. Which is one of the major reasons we have become so dependent on top down leadership.  Media wins elections, money buys media and the DC operatives can raise more money with one direct mail piece than most local parties raise all year. "

So true. Excellent observation and a definite challenge in my home state of North Carolina.

Yes, it's all true

To be honest, our grassroots organizations never have recovered from this hammerblow. Which is one of the major reasons we have become so dependent on top down leadership.  Media wins elections, money buys media and the DC operatives can raise more money with one direct mail piece than most local parties raise all year.

But it doesn't have to be that way, not now, not with the Internet. With the Internet, we can re-empower our grassroot organizations and grow more, building up larger and larger networks over time that will produce votes directly without the need for media funds, as the Obama campaign has clearly demonstrated. Using the Internet to re-empower the party's grassroot base, we can finally free the party from the domination of its corporate class that has acted to weaken the party's principle message of less government, less taxes and more liberty for so long.

The real question before us is do we want to continue with the old corporate funding structure or do we want to change it to the New Right by using the Internet and the party's grassroots?

ex animo

davidfarrar

I do like your division

of the RNC, NRCC, and RSC as separate entities.  It would seem that the RSC would focus on formulating actual policy ideas, the NRCC would focus on the immediate election cycle, and the RNC would focus on long-term party building.  This would be a useful division of powers.

Makes Sense

I'm far from an expert on this stuff, but I have to say that your analysis makes a lot of sense to me.

RSC is not a National Republican Committee

If we're going to discuss this, we should make sure we've got the right committee names and responsibilities.

There are three national Republican committees: the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

The NRCC and the NRSC are largely responsible for recruiting and electing Republican candidates

The RSC is The Republican Study Committee. A group of over 105 House Republicans organized for the purpose of advancing a conservative social and economic agenda in the House of Representatives. The Republican Study Committee is dedicated to: 

  • a limited and Constitutional role for the federal government,
  • a strong national defense,
  • the protection of individual and property rights,
  • and the preservation of traditional family values.

If you're looking for an campaign committee associated with them, check out houseconservatives.com.

Sorry

I should have written NRSC not RSC, when I worked in the Senate many of us just referred to it as RSC and I guess the habit stuck.

RNC Chair

Unless you get an adult to handle this job we are only going to lose more and more people. I am sick and tired of listening to some of these wack jobs running. Barack the magic negro? Good job, lets run more people off. Vote me in because i'm black? I mean come on folks. It's time that they either shape up or ship out.

So who do you support?

I just finished listening to the ATR sponsored RNC Chairmans' debatet and I think the two black candidates both did extremely well.  In fact, I think they were head and shoulders better than the competition.  I think Steele would be a better "public face" but Blackwell may be the better strategist.

do they not have names?

or is "the two black candidates" simply a better description for you?

I couldnt watch and only read a live-blog....didnt get the impression that anybody performed that well, most of the answers seemed like the usual canned political jargon. Blackwell appears to be the favorite in a number of blogs....did he mention a strategy for getting back the young, female and minority votes? Steele is "popular", but the party should be careful in nominating someone who doesnt have the full support of the base simply because he is well known.

someone who wants to get new votes

will inevitably not be popular with the base. the base wants blood, not victory.

Uh, he did name them.

Right after he described them, in a way relevant to the context of the discussion.

Good point.  I had the same

Good point.  I had the same thought.

Blackwell and Steele's ethnicity

It's sort of funny that Blackwell and Steele being AA is even part of the discussion when you consider that the DNC just put Tim Kaine in charge.

Sorry, but if you look up white dude in the dictionary Tim Kaine's picture is there. One columnist said Kaine looks like the guy who goes to his barber one a week like clockwork and says "Give me the Hoffa."

But look at the fellow who gave him the job.

Ah yes, but who does Tim Kaine answer to?

Perhaps the base is the problem ...

and prevents the party from growing and changing with the political dynamic. I think Burke's definition of conservatism was that it approaches new ideas with answers grounded in tradition, not that it closed its mind to new ideas.

careful

a statement like that could get you yelled at on some blogs :P

That said, i completely agree with you. there is nothing wrong with conservative ideals, but the GOP refuses to adapt its message to today's world. The party is now known for supression of dissent ("with us or against us") and sticking to ideas and slogans from the 70s.

how do you adapt a smaller gov't message

to those urban voters who find the whole idea nonsensical, particularly as Monstersanto and Exxon ensure our country becomes more and more urban?

well

do you mean smaller gov't as in less interference in people's lives (ie no federal gay marriage amendment) or less government programs?  the first one would be easy to get support for if it were framed as more of a small gov't issue and less as a "culture war" theme.

as for smaller gov't as a whole, conservatives need to make the case as to why their policies would be better for urban residents, not "this is our policy and we'll apply it to the entire country regardless of the results." Adapt a new war on poverty, that is more localized and doesn't require federal assistance. Work on incentives for private companies to get involved in transportation. Hold a town hall and actually engage people....get some real ideas and ask voters what they want.

Engaging voters is an important theme, especially with Obama in office. The GOP has backed itself into a corner with attacks on people that live in cities, people that attended private schools, people that have been to europe....the list goes on. the country is very diverse, old attacks arent going to be effective anymore.

less government is removing all marriage from legal documents

neh? only civil unions. you choose if you want marriage, and by whom, and all that shtick. I know someone who is an ordained minister, but I don't think he even remembers which church he's ordained in.

If you go the federalism route, and cut off handouts to the poor states, you will lose your base entirely. (am I strawmanning? apologies)

So it sounds like you're okay with handouts, so long as they're localized? Is there some way that we can work together on this, making things both localized and part of a broader framework? Just typing aloud.

Incentives for private corporations are just more tax cuts... if a more targeted kind. if you're current windmill is managed markets, that's probably not a good idea.

I'm hopeful that you can marginalize the crazies, and come back to reality.

what I hate about conservatives

is when they start to moralize about things that are utterly irrelevant and weren't true from the getgo. They seem to act like ideals are reality, or should be forced to be reality by any means necessary.

Take "no sex before marriage" -- which presumably the right is going on about when they rant against contraceptives and want there to be consequences for unmarried sex.

That term and rule was coined when the average age of marriage was 13, and it was common to see ten year olds married.

So it sort of made sense not to have sex before then, as a girl pregnant before then was in serious physical danger to her life.

Not that this stopped kids from having plenty of non-marital sex. Adultery, in other words, though a good deal of it might be more accurately called rape. Teenage hijinks, at any rate.

But, I can hear you now, saying "But in 1935 we didn't have so much teenage sex!" Umm... sure. Aside from "kissing cousins", the historical evidence strongly suggests just as much premarital sex (if you account for earlier age of marriage, at any rate).

You'll find that the places with the least amount of teenage sexual activity are the cities -- where people have more to do than drink, have sex, and do drugs. Rural areas now are less remote than they used to be, so we can extrapolate the amount of sexual activity there to be quite considerable -- even if it was hushed up.

But it isn't very interesting to lecture on how unwed pregnancies should be hushed up, is it?

Nor is it very easy to go on about how we don't need a strong military... (when did the republicans become the bully party, exactly?)

What I hate about liberals

Is when they start to moralize about things that are utterly irrelevant and weren't possible from the get go. They seem to act like their ideals are reality, and anyone who disagrees must either be stupid or evil, and therefore must be forced to accept their narrative by any means necessary.

Take "hope and love" -- which presumably the Left is going on about when they rant against capitalism and Western civilization and don't want there to be consequences for laziness, self-pity and corrupt cultural problems.

The opposition to capitalism in its earliest stages was coined when slavery was still a viable economic system, and many people such as Thomas Carlyle argued that feudal slavery was a preferable situation to laissez faire capitalism because at least the slave-owner had to take care of you, instead of having to take care of yourself with cold, heartless money.

So it sort of made sense not to like capitalism before then, since it meant blacks could compete on an equal playing field with their supposedly superior white fellow men for jobs, and be held to equal standards before the law.

Not that this stopped the religious people and the economists from banding together and pushing for laissez faire to stop it. Pro-capitalists, in other words, though a good deal of them might be more accurately called "liberals" in the classical sense. Non-racists, at any rate.

But, I can hear you now, saying "But in 1865 we didn't have such brutally regressive labor relations or such socialism for the rich!" Umm... sure. Aside from the British nobility (who were often bailed out by the Queen) and the fact that trade unions were banned in Britain for ages, the historical evidence strongly suggests infinitely more barbaric labor practices (if you account for slavery and the absence of child labor laws, at any rate).

You'll find that the people with the least amount of racism in their track record are the pro-capitalists -- who  have more than hysterical, over-emotional desires to force their compassion on other people and just want to have a reasonably ordered society. "Progressive" Racism now is less obvious than it used to be, but based on affirmative action programs, we can extrapolate the amount of preferential treatment and condescenscion there to be quite considerable -- even if it is hidden behind pretty little platitudes.

But it isn't very interesting to lecture on how slavery is better than capitalism because people don't have to fend for themselves, is it?

Nor is it very easy to go on about how we don't need progressive taxation... (when did the democrats become the bully party that steals the smart kids' lunch money, exactly?)

If anyone found the above post to be a tad too extreme or ignorant, I refer you to the definition of "irony."

 

Irony is as irony does

but your Colorblind racism is showing, my dear, and you really ought to get that fixed, or leave all credibilty rent asunder.

Not that I'd mind that, of course.

Obviously, I may be misreading parts of this satire as meant more truthfully than you honestly meant them.

But satire should be funny. And i prefer ghost in the shell, myself.

 If you want to hide behind a

 If you want to hide behind a sociological BS term like "colorblind racism" rather than acknowledging my point and arguing with it, I won't waste time trying to draw you out. God knows I've already wasted enough time.

My point, however, had little to do with that. I was simply pointing out the absurdity of using history as a way to discount tradition, or to deny the applicability of modern questions.

so it's okay to use history to discount

a managed economy, but not okay to use it to discount a traditional economy?

Either you want to disagree with my facts, or you want to make a coherent argument.

I was discussing the concept that some traditions may be utterly inapplicable based on changing standards. Or do you still think that there should be a bridegift and animal sacrifices and polygamy? I choose something generally assumed to still be applicable, to make my point that not everyone decides to  think before assuming that a tradition should still be applicable -- or even asking if that tradition was anything more than a fig leaf over something more nefarious.

I guess what I'm saying is that I am having a hard time understanding what argument you're making.

The trolls are winning

The last seven replys have absolutley nothing to do with the subject at hand.  Once again, a small number of malicious trolls are successfully hijacking a conversation in order to divert attention from the real question:  What is, or should be, the appropriate role of the RNC and by extension what qualifications should the next chairman bring to the job.

I wouldn't call them trolls

But I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this...

that is the problem with these boards

particularly this dreadful interface. can't collapse the silly stuff.

gomen. i believe that was me driving it off subject, by pulling one pinch of what someone said, and making some fairy dust to float to jupiter with.

Now, back to the original question

Despite my love of policy and ideological questions, I really think the job of the RNC chair has very little to do with that, and ought have little to do with that, mostly because I distrust  the idea that consistent policy plans can flow from any group whose survival is dependent upon elections. Public opinion is fickle, and if the RNC chair had to be a policy wonk, I fear he/she would end up with a set of positions so random that they would only make sense if one took acid and read them backwards. Properly speaking, neither Republicans nor Democrats are officially ideological vehicles, and that's a good thing, in my opinion. If you make the RNC Chair a conservative policymaker, then you increase the indentured servitude of conservative intellectuals to the GOP, and I frankly think that when intellectuals of any stripe get connected to solely political organizations, it tends to make for lousier ideas about what to do with power because originality becomes so constrained. In short, I want the RNC chair to be an election-winner because that will keep the conservative movement still independent of one party.