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Recanvassing shows NY-23 race tightens even as Rep. Bill Owens is sworn into House seat

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And your hope is what exactly?

Submitted by Tlaloc on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 18:16.

Hoffman's still going to lose.  The margin will likely end up being a bit tighter but not a lot.  He's currently down by more than 3000 votes.  For all the bluster about 10,000 absentee ballots that's the number sent OUT not the number actually returned (which is apparently 5400).  Add to that that Hoffman;s best showing poll wise was immediately before the election (after absentee ballots are likely to have been mailed), and that most of the absentee ballots were reported to be from Owens strongholds, we're left to conclude that there's just no way Hoffman can net the vast majority of the absentees like he'd need.

My hope exactly is that

Submitted by Woolly Mammoth on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 21:45.

My hope exactly is that people pay closer attention when a candidate repeatedly receives "0" as his vote total and that a candidate not concede so fast. Gov. Riley in Alabama is a good example of how proofreading pays off.

Not that you wanted a serious answer.

No that's a fair answer

Submitted by Tlaloc on Sat, 11/14/2009 - 13:55.

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Sorry to have assumed the

Submitted by Woolly Mammoth on Sat, 11/14/2009 - 18:43.

Sorry to have assumed the worst.  Cheers.

What ever happened to "count all the votes"?

Submitted by Ironman on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 18:53.

I recall the Democrats once thought that was important. Or is that only important in races where their candidate is narrowly losing.

Who said anyhing about stopping the count?

Submitted by Tlaloc on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 21:27.

My point was simply that conservatives are doubling down on a race they already lost.  Certainly the state of NY should count all the votes so that we have an accurate tally.

well, odds are Owens still stays ahead

Submitted by Ironman on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 22:27.

but weren;t you the guy who said Hoffman was "badly smoked"?  Not quite that decisive, now was it? 

You're right

Submitted by Tlaloc on Thu, 11/12/2009 - 23:37.

losing a seat by 3000 votes instead of 4000 when any other republican would have won by 30% is quite a feat.

 

No, really.

If you think Rahm Emanuel had McHugh picked as Sec. Army

Submitted by Ironman on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 05:30.

so as to lose this election by 30 points, you are more delusional than I thought.

 

Wow, he is clever.

Submitted by John Smith on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 09:14.

 Yesterday on another thread you claimed that if the NYS GOP had nominated nominating Doheny or Maroun instead of Dede, they would have won the seat. So, are you now claiming that Emanuel is such a genius that was able to foresee that:

  • NYS GOP would nominate Scozzafava over Doheny or Maroun;
  • NY Conservative Party would refuse to endorse Scozzafava, nominating their own candidate instead;
  • The candidate they would pick would live outside the district and would demonstrate that he doesn't know or care about the issues in the district;
  • Scozzafava would eventually quit the race and endorse the Democrat;
  • Therefore, the Democrat wins the seat.

All this in a district which had never elected a democrat, ever?

If that is the case, I'm quite pleased to have such an intelligent man with such powers of predicting the future at the side of the President. 

 

Naw, he just had to bet on them picking Scozzafava

Submitted by Ironman on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 22:05.

which was a reasonable bet, given how dense the NYS GOP was. From that point on, the Conservative Party walks, takes a minimum of 10K of voters off the table, and all Rahm's guy is going to need is about 45%. No further events required. As I said, this seat was lost in August.- Hoffman almost got it back.  

contrarywise

Submitted by Tlaloc on Sat, 11/14/2009 - 13:59.

he counted on the conservatives throwing a shitfit when the party picked a local popular moderate.  The resulting scorched earth campaign by the purists would do the dems work for them in three ways:

1. delivered a safe rep seat to the dems on a silver platter

2. ate up a bunch of rep resources

3. furthered moderate-conservative antipathy

 

oh, actually, and

4. encouraged other conservative nuts to challenge moderates who might actualy win (I've seen at least half a dozen cases pop up already)